Diabetes Type 2 is a lifestyle choice

[BaliRob]

Who is "Bonny"?

[bigbenn]

Hi,
Thanks for your reply. Wheat - um, that would probably be Weetbix - to be honest, I never thought of that, so good point.

OK, your reply is acknowledged and confirmed and I will keep my opinion to myself in future.

Nevertheless, I hope that each and every one of you are successful in overcoming your Diabetes and to having full and happy lives.

BigBenn

[BioHaZarD]

Bigben

Just wanted to mention again that diabetes can not be cured, my last visit to the GPS was great, the results of my blood test were normal and if my go did not know me he would have said I did not have diabetes.

You are of course allowed to post your opinions that is what this forum if for, but say it the correct way or you will be jumped upon.

[paragliderpete]

Hiu bigbenn you seem to be a bit short on technical data to be convincing. It seems more plausable that you were never diabetic in the first place, and only insulin resistant due to your obesity.
Perhaps you could post your oral glucose tolerence test results, and fasting glucose levels. Just because you have managed to normalise your routine bm readings does not mean that you have cured your diabetes. It sound very much as though you do not understand what daibetes is.
Great news that you have things under control, unfortunately you give a very confusing picture for new members , with nothing to convince the well educated diabetics on the forum. Look forward to you detailed response. Numbers please

[Grazer]

IF, and it's a big IF, you ever had diabetes bigbenn, you're now living in a world of denial. And if your HbA1c really is now 6.1, it's worse than mine and a lot of others on here; but we know we're not cured.

[borofergie]

Just because T2 Diabetes has never been cured, doesn't mean in will never be cured. I fully intend to cure mine.

However, I strongly doubt I'll be claiming "cured" with a HbA1c of 6.1%, which is roughly equivalent to an average BG level of 7.8 mmol/l, which sounds very diabetic to me. I'm still very diabetic, and I beat myself up if my BG ever goes above 7.8mmol/l, I couldn't contemplate having that on average.

Anyway, talk is cheap. Are you a betting man Ben? How about we both submit to a DIY GTT and see just how non-diabetic we are?
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[Hobs]

Clippety clop, clippetty clop, over the rackety bridge

PMSL ..

[Defren]

BigBenn; Your posts are like someone hitting the replay button on a CD, simply repetitive.

This forum is built on opinions, some we like and agree with, others we don't, it is what it is.

Like Borofergie has said, with an HbA1c of 6.1 your average readings are in the 7's. In this country, people are diagnosed as diabetic with a 7.0 or above, I should know I was one of them, my first HbA1c was 7 on the nose. I am diabetic. I know exactly what is safe for me to eat, I know what exercise I need and I work within those parameters. My BG never goes above 6. That doesn't mean I am not diabetic, I learned a valuable lesson in August when I was on holiday. There was a special occasion and all kinds of home made as well as shop bought goodies were available. I adore banana's but I have not touched a single one since diagnosis, but there was a banana loaf at this party. I helped myself to two rather generous slices. My BG shot up to 9 and it stayed there. I walked, I drank water, but it came down in it's own sweet (pun not intended) time. Lesson learned.

I will try anything safe to keep tight control of my BG. I have done 8 week liquid diets and usually I fast two days a week, not this week as I am a bit under the weather, but this will be the first week I have missed in 6 weeks, having done five weeks of two day fasting. It is because I will try things, because I eat to my meter, and I work hard to maintain a low BG I am where I am.

Like I have said to you before, there is no way I would touch your diet, nor would I want your HbA1c. However, if you came onto the forum with maybe a little more humility and not just to boast and brag, and state your way is the best, which in my opinion clearly it isn't, you would not be jumped on. This forum is a place of equals, and your "I'm God who are you" approach will get peoples backs up, and rightly so. Something to think about perhaps?

[DickM]

Very interested in this quote from your post @1.14am
<quote> including having to pass a Diabetes test each year to retain my drivers license <quote>
I have been a type 2 for 6 years now and the only thing I have ever had to do about my driving licence and my diabetes is to inform the DVLA that I am a type 2 and managing it on medication and diet. If I ever go onto insulin then I am duty bound to inform them and then I would be subject to much more restrictions but for now I will simply have to apply for a new licence when my present one expires (age related only)
Like other my random a/m blood check is averaging at 5.9 BUT if I eat one thing that is not diabetes kind I end up the next day at 6.5 or so. I know I will never ever be 100% cured of diabetes but I do know that I am and will continue to do everything I can to maintain a healthy lifestyle so as to manage my diabetes in the best way possible for me and my life.

You will notice that I have made the IF in my statement a very big IF as that is what it is as I intend to do all that is within my power to avoid it.

[Hellbunny]

Your breakfast alone would have me of a blood glucose level of around 25mmol. Weetabix and Bananas are high GI.
I'm most likely type 1 though.
You seem to have your diabetes under good control.
My readings have been between 3.5 and 6.8 this week, i'm still diabetic, i'm just controlled for now

[xyzzy]

As far as your diet and exercise regimes goes then do whatever works for you. If you are happy with an hBA1c of 6% then great and as you say that is back under the diabetes diagnosis value. Unless you were diagnosed very early on i.e in the prediabetic or maybe just diabetic stages then it is incredibly unlikely you have cured your diabetes, you have it under control just like loads of us do and to be frank a lot of us have better hBA1c's than you are achieving so rather than preaching a bit of listening might not go amiss.

What really made me angry about your post BigBenn was

Diabetes Type 2 is a lifestyle choice, indicated by a pot belly (although I had mine since birth) and an obese body, as are the many complications which might occur as the disease progresses.

That is the equivalent of poking a wasps nest with a stick as despite what you may believe the science does not show that T2 is a lifestyle choice. Certainly being overweight may well trigger T2 in someone but a) a lot of people get T2 without ever being obese (me included) and more importantly b) the science increasing shows that it's the initial stages of developing the disease that makes people gain weight rather than those people gaining weight because they have chosen any kind of bad or immoral lifestyle. i.e that they are fat and lazy.

On exercise then yes as a means of keeping yourself healthy some exercise is obviously good for you and everyone should try and do some. Hard physical sustained exercise may not be that good especially if you are attempting to loose weight as afterwards you will end up hungry and by eating to satiate the hunger cancel out the effect of the exercise. In reality something like just walking may well be good exercise as gentle forms of exercise can be driven from body fat and encourage weight loss as opposed to very physical exercise that needs to be glucose driven.

[shop]

Non of us CHOOSE to have diabetes T1, T2, T3, T1.5, MODY we all have diabetes and would all love to be cured. We don't slate each other with narrowminded opinions and each manage our condition as best we can. Some better than others. some find it easier than others and some struggle to take ownership.

Lucy.

[BlindFaith]

Diabetes Type 2 is a lifestyle choice

The above quote kinda contradicts the quote below, don't you think...?

However, Diabetes was not my choice either

I don't think ANYONE would make the life choice to have diabetes of any kind.
Please don't make sweeping generalizations like that, it just causes unnecessary upset and offense to some people.
I know I haven't chosen to have diabetes, just like I didn't choose to have the accident that's left me in a wheelchair for the foreseeable future and just like I didn't choose to suffer with M.E or a chronic skin condition that leaves me in blisters.

I would wish, with all of my heart, that I could cure the Diabetes that each of you has

But according to your posts you have cured yours, right?
So of course we wouldn't need your wishes, we'd just need to follow everything that you've done and we'll all be magically cured...!

I think I'll stick to what I'm doing, thanks.
What works for you (as others have said previously) may or will not work for someone else. It's great that you've found something that fits your lifestyle and something that has helped you; but like many others a sniff of Weetabix or banana and my levels would go through the roof.
As would my IBS and acid reflux as I'm wheat and lactose intolerant.

My diet, because it is sugar, fat and salt free, as much as possible that is, will not harm you in any way and might improve your health overall

How in the Void do you know that?
Unless you have some kind of medical background or training OR you know each and every one of us personally and know exactly what kind of foods and/or diet can be tolerated or would be appropriate then you can't just say "my diet won't harm you at all".
To someone who is newly diagnosed and doesn't know how to help themselves lower their blood sugar and gain control of their diabetes your post could be really confusing; not to mention potentially dangerous.

[Mongoose39uk]

Sigh, thanks for telling me it's my lifestyle choice. cry cry

He he

BTW I do have a choice I can live life to the full and bloody well enjoy it or exist on that diet, though I do suspect not for very long.

[RobsterinSheff]

All of you- stop feeding the (blatent) troll !