4 Years of type 2 and new to here and would like to say hello.

Gordo77

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Hi all I have had type 2 Diabetes for 4 odd years. Been on Metformin for most of it, now on 500mg x2 twice a day, also I take Liraglutide injection once a day, plus other medication for other things.
My sugars have been in a good range and I have been steadily losing weight, which I am proud of.
I normally test my blood when I start a new medication or diet and all it normal. But recently I have had some of the old symptoms come back, and some new ones. So I tested my blood for a week so far and in the morning before anything 13.4 was the lowest and last time I checked was in June this year was 6.2. Hour after food now highest 23.7 and in June 11.8. Results for 2 hours after food now 23.6 and in June 11.0. I am on the same medication. Been to GP and got a hint that insulin might be on the cards, had to get an appointment with the hospital diabetic nurse which is on on the 10th of December, to find out what will happen. Now I am starting to go hungry and not having a drink, so I can test my blood, which I think might give wrong results. Just getting stuck.
 

urbanracer

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Hi @Gordo77, welcome to the forums.

Those numbers are not good, hope you get it sorted soon.

What are you eating? Have you tried cutting down on carbs in any way.?
 
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Gordo77

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I have just been cutting down all foods, losing weight. I do eat less potatoes,pasta etc. I do have the odd bad day where I eat a lot more than I should.
Breakfast: normally porridge, with a bit of sugar.
Snack: fruit or some digestive biscuits.
Lunch: Sandwich with yoghurt or 2 finger kitkat or superstore equivalent.
Snack: fruit or packet of crisps weight watchers.
Dinner: to various to mention
Snack: Kitkat or digestive biscuits.
This is what I normally have but I do vary it. This has helped me lose weight and reduce my sugars.
As I said my weight has been on the decrease.
 

Lamont D

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Far too many carbs for me, it's no wonder you are having spikes and troughs, do you have to snack on biscuits and such?
I think you do need to review your carb intake.
Have a read of the low carb forum, there is some great recipes and ideas on there.
I eat little and often but I would be in a hell of a mess, with how much you eat!
You say you are losing weight, and that's great, but you are not in control of your blood glucose levels. If I was to predict that your hba1c levels have increased over time and that's why you need the meds!
 
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Gordo77

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No I haven't but I will do that's what I lack at the moment is good information. I agree my diet isn't the best.
But from what I used to eat a year ago I am a saint.
The biggest problem I had was the feeling of being hungry after a meal and still do sometimes.
I hope from the information I get my I will vary my diet and make me feel better and reduce my sugar.
 

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Welcome
I will tag @daisy1 who will post useful information for newcomers to the forum. Take time to read it and ask questions and people here will try and help..
 
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Do have a read of daisy1 info, it will be full of really useful info. I am one of the low carb high fat way of eaters .. I lost 5 st in 18 months and my sugars are in the normal range now .. Best of all ..you don't feel hungry With this way of eating
 
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urbanracer

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Not being able to eat as many chocolate digestives as I used to.
I have just been cutting down all foods, losing weight. I do eat less potatoes,pasta etc. I do have the odd bad day where I eat a lot more than I should.
Breakfast: normally porridge, with a bit of sugar.
Snack: fruit or some digestive biscuits.
Lunch: Sandwich with yoghurt or 2 finger kitkat or superstore equivalent.
Snack: fruit or packet of crisps weight watchers.
Dinner: to various to mention
Snack: Kitkat or digestive biscuits.
This is what I normally have but I do vary it. This has helped me lose weight and reduce my sugars.
As I said my weight has been on the decrease.

Good you are losing weight but you ought to be looking at your food a bit more critically. If you can, get rid of the sugar and the crisps. Don't know what fruit you are eating but it doesn't come free to us - it contains fructose which gets converted easily to glucose in your bloodstream. Berries are generally better than say bananas or apples etc.

As a T1 on insulin I would eat a biscuit to keep my blood sugars up if I went low, so those digestives aren't doing you any favours either mate. From recollection there's about 9g of carbs in each one.

The reference intake for carbs is 260g per day, do you have any idea how much you're consuming?
 
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Hi and welcome. Giving your diet an overhaul should definately help your numbers to come down at least a little.
 

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@Gordo77

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members which contains a lot of advice about carbs which you need to reduce in your diet. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Gordo77

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Thank you all for your help, I have a lot to taken, but I will ask when I get stuck :).
 
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