Twenty Four hours as a diabetic & still none the wiser.

oopsie

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Totally new to this & found this site after hours of trawling the net for information.. After a routine blood I visited my doctor for the results. He told me I was diabetic & prescribed Metformin. He said I was high at 64 & to return in 3 months for an assessment.. My father is a diabetic & he is something point something. So it baffled me with the 64. I googled it when I got home & I guessed I had to convert it (roughly 3,5) I didn't think that was high. My father tested me after food & I was 8.9... Could I control it with a change of diet? I read the side effects of Metformin so I haven't taken any yet. 1 reason is I drink. (I'm under counselling & my doctor knows) & its not advised to take it. I feel lost in a swamp of information..
 

azure

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64 would be your HbA1C. . In old measurements, 64 is 8.0% and is higher than desired.

Many Type 2s here reduce the carbs they eat and that can help a lot.

Let me tag @daisy1 for some welcome info.

Do you have your own meter?
 
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oopsie

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Thank you, no I don't have a meter of my own.
 

Brunneria

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Hi and welcome!

It is a very steep learning curve, and we all feel adrift and confused to start with.
But you have done a great thing for yourself by finding this site.
Read as much as can, ask questions, and be gentle with yourself. It is always a shock, so let the information percolate in gently.
 
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oopsie

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Thank you Brunneria, I've bookmarked The links.
 

azure

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Thank you, no I don't have a meter of my own.

You'd probably find it very helpful to have one. That way you can test and see how you react to certain foods. If you're looking to get control by changing your diet, then a meter is important.

The SD Codefree is popular with Type 2s here as the strips are cheap.
 

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I ama type 1 - but thought this might help u with the converting of numbers.

It is a very steep learning curve, but there are lots of type 2's on here that will be more than happy to help.


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daisy1

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@oopsie

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Prem51

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Hi @oopsie and welcome to the forum. A HbA1c of 64 isn't too high, and you should be able to lower that before your 3 month retest by adjusting your diet. A lot of people on here have lowered their HbA1c from higher than that by adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat approach to eating.
You can drink alcohol, but some types are worse than others. Beer should be avoided, we regard it as 'liquid bread'. Sweet alcoholic drinks like liqueurs and mixers in spirits should be avoided too. If you drink spirits with mixers, use 'diet' mixers instead. Dry white wine is better than sweeter white wine, and red wine is ok - I usually drink Merlot now. I used to drink beer, but only occasionally now.
 
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oopsie

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Hi, thanks for the information & the warm welcome's. I've bought a Accu-Chek Aviva £16 from Superdrug, (UK) Its the same as my fathers so I can use his strips etc till I can sort a prescription..
1st test with it. 6.2 before food. & with hardly any carbs for 2 days I've lost 2lbs :)
 
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Just be aware that you may not get a prescription for testing strips. It is rare for type 2s not on strong drugs/insulin to be given these. Most of us have to self fund. If you are refused strips, consider buying the Codefree as that has the cheapest strips and you will need a lot of them if you are going to use your meter to the best advantage. (testing before and after meals and at other times such as fasting and bedtime.) I imagine the Accu Chek strips will be expensive.

http://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/

There are discount codes for buying in bulk that are very generous, bringing the cost down to £5 odd for 50.
 

oopsie

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Yes, totally expensive.. Just looked on amazon, £7-99 for 50 of the Codefree... If I can't get a prescription I think I will invest in a codefree .. Jeezz its not cheap to have a condition
 
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Bluetit1802

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Yes, totally expensive.. Just looked on amazon, £7-99 for 50 of the Codefree... If I can't get a prescription I think I will invest in a codefree .. Jeezz its not cheap to have a condition

These are the discount codes for the Codefree if you buy 5 or 10 boxes

5 packs 264086
10 packs 975833

They are also VAT free if you tick the box.