T2 and Alchoholic

Jane1955

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HI there

My name is Jane and I have just ben diagnosed with Type 2 D. OK I can sort out my diet but my major problem is that I am an alchoholic. I have cut my drinking down to 21 units a week: whih for me is good. Can any one suggest how I can cut out. Is there a medicne that will help?

I will go cold turken in a ouple of weeks but I understand that |I should not do this without medical help becasue it can cause strokes. any help / advice would be appreciated
 
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BrianTheElder

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Hi
I am a cured alcoholic in much the same way I am a cured T2D. If I go back to my old ways, I will be ill again on both counts.
Giving up alcohol is very difficult. I was lucky enough to get into a private hospital that ran courses for this. There were other people there that really struggled to afford the course. Have a talk with your GP and see what resources are available in your area. You definitely need a support group, at least in the early stages, as cold turkey is the best way. Look up AA on the internet, but there are other support groups available if you find the religious overtones difficult (I did). If you have problems, please come back to me and I will look though my old resources (it's been 5 years now...).
 
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Jaylee

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HI there

My name is Jane and I have just ben diagnosed with Type 2 D. OK I can sort out my diet but my major problem is that I am an alchoholic. I have cut my drinking down to 21 units a week: whih for me is good. Can any one suggest how I can cut out. Is there a medicne that will help?

I will go cold turken in a ouple of weeks but I understand that |I should not do this without medical help becasue it can cause strokes. any help / advice would be appreciated

Wow Jane. Brave first post.
Welcome to the forum.

Tagging in @daisy1 & @AM1874 with info regarding the diabetes.

Wishing you all the best!
 
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Hi @Jane1955 .. and welcome
Can't help with your alcohol problem except to say that I agree 100% with what has already been said about working with your Doc and a support group. For your diabetes, though, you have made a good move coming here. I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need .. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I see that @Jaylee has already tagged @daisy1 for you and i suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

A top priority is that you get yourself a meter for testing and, for this, I suggest that you try the website at:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 (you don't pay VAT) or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them. Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them
Hope this helps
 
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One suggestion I have is that you test your blood sugars to find out what the alcohol is doing to your sugars in much the same way as you would test after food. It's possible that the cold turkey won't work very well and this could be another incentive. I find that as soon as I decide to have no more wine the little demons get stronger.

Apart from the blood sugars the alcohol is unkind to the liver which is counter productive so you might consider intermittent alcohol fasting or, in other words, just drink one or two days a week.

Good luck with whichever method you go for.
 

daisy1

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@Jane1955

Hello Jane and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

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@Jane1955

Hi and welcome. You have made the right decision on two fronts, lass. You found this forum which is full of members who will help, advise and encourage you in your endeavour to get a handle on T2. And well done for accepting the problem as regards to alcohol, this in itself is such a big step in recovery. I have to say that I agree with what has already been said about using your GPs services to address the problem so that you don't feel as though you are fighting a war on two fronts.
I admire your courage and wish you all the best.
 

ianalan

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HI there

My name is Jane and I have just ben diagnosed with Type 2 D. OK I can sort out my diet but my major problem is that I am an alchoholic. I have cut my drinking down to 21 units a week: whih for me is good. Can any one suggest how I can cut out. Is there a medicne that will help?

I will go cold turken in a ouple of weeks but I understand that |I should not do this without medical help becasue it can cause strokes. any help / advice would be appreciated

Hi Jane.
Go find "Alcohol Mastery' on the internet.
The founder Kevin O Hara turned his life around and has shared his experience with anyone who has the good fortune to find him.
A refreshing, no nonsense, non judgemental
Aid to quitting alcohol.
Full of great tips and motivational material.
Hi insight into the problem is phenomenal and his communication skills excellent. Concise and direct. Not at all arty farty!!!!!
He has helped me quit and that was no small deal.
Good luck.
Ian