Newly diagnosed T2 diabetes

jon200

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Hi all,

I've just been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes and to be honest, am still not really sure how i feel about it. I should probably be nervous or scared, but i think i have the will power to keep on top of it. Maybe i'm just in denial - i guess we'll see
I had a fasting blood test done with a reading of 7.6, so had a repeat fasting test done with a result of 7.2 so the diagnosis was made.

The practitioner was not very helpful and her attitude was basically that its my own fault for being overweight, which while technically may be true, but i felt it wasn't really the road to go down.

My main issue is trying to choose the food i eat and things i drink. I was basically told to stay away from fruit, bread, pasta and anything that contains any sugar, but just about everything i see contains sugar in some form or another. Not easy as i love fresh orange juice, rice and pasta.

Any advice would be much appreciated.
 

andcol

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I think you got some fairly good advice to start with - stay away from bread, pasta, rice, or very much reduce the quantity and change to slow release versions such as a good seedy variety of bread, brown rice, a wholemeal pasta maybe (do not know anything about pasta) but preferably stay away from them to start with until you get under control.

Did you get a blood glucose monitor? I bet the answer is no! Without one you do not know what you can and can't manage. Buy one - many of us use the code free one from amazon or more direct from homehealth.uk.com the strips are so much cheaper than the rest

There are a few diets you can follow: A low calorie diet for a couple of months to drive off the weight - worked for me within a month with back to normal numbers, A low GI/GL diet or a low carb high fat diet.

I would recommend you have a read of some of the threads to help you decide your approach. You can read my journey from the thread in my signature. I went from 91 to normal in 3 months

good luck - keep posting and asking questions and well done for wanting to take control straight away
 

jon200

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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the reply.

No i didn't get a blood glucose monitor, the practitioner actually said it wasn't necessary as my results of 7.2 and 7.6 were too low to be concerned with home testing. As far as i am concerned though, if they were high enough to diagnose, then they are high enough to be concerned.
To be honest, i didn't even realise they could buy them, i always thought they were only issued by GP's - so thanks for the tip and i'll definitely be getting one.

I note that you've gone from 17st 9lbs to just under 13st in around 9 months which is great, so i think i'll definitely read up on your journey to get some tips.

Thanks for the advice!

I think you got some fairly good advice to start with - stay away from bread, pasta, rice, or very much reduce the quantity and change to slow release versions such as a good seedy variety of bread, brown rice, a wholemeal pasta maybe (do not know anything about pasta) but preferably stay away from them to start with until you get under control.

Did you get a blood glucose monitor? I bet the answer is no! Without one you do not know what you can and can't manage. Buy one - many of us use the code free one from amazon or more direct from homehealth.uk.com the strips are so much cheaper than the rest

There are a few diets you can follow: A low calorie diet for a couple of months to drive off the weight - worked for me within a month with back to normal numbers, A low GI/GL diet or a low carb high fat diet.

I would recommend you have a read of some of the threads to help you decide your approach. You can read my journey from the thread in my signature. I went from 91 to normal in 3 months

good luck - keep posting and asking questions and well done for wanting to take control straight away
 

Lazybones

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Dear Jon200,
Firstly welcome to the Diabetes Forum. Having been told thet you have diabetes can come to many people as a shock, as diabetes is something that effects others and not oneself.
Take things steadily, used this site to learn what you can about diet, exercise and medications. Many of us have been where you are, and we're all surviving, so don't despair over the fact that you are now a member of the Diabetic 'Club'
There is much to learn, and many so called experts frequently aren't quite as expert as they might think. themselves to be (that also includes the Professionals as well) so you will need to read between the lines and draw your own conclusions as to what is the best approach to control this condition that you now have.
Certainly exercise (in Moderation, and an appropriate diet and change in general lifestyle will go a remarkable way to controlling your diabetes, so read all you can from this excellent website.
whatever questions you may have then pleas ask, there are many members who as they say, have been ther, have done it, so don't worry how basic your question may at first seem.

Best of Luck - Lazybones
 
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mo53

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Hello Jon and welcome. Andrew has given you some good advice and its worth looking at the low carb high fat diets too. There are some brilliant recipes too.:)
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi Jon and welcome to the club no-one wants to join.

You are definitely not in denial or you wouldn't be here and posting. You have made a great start just by doing that. Your nurse was very helpful in my opinion. Most of them tell us to eat more fruit, lots of bread, potatoes, pasta and rice! She sounds fine to me.

Your levels aren't drastic, and with some effort diet-wise you should be able to get them down as well as your weight - but YES you do need a meter to help you with this. Good luck, read round, and ask as many questions as you like.
 

daisy1

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Hi Jon and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Carry on asking questions and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

jon200

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Thanks everyone for your replies and the warm welcome to the community, good to know good advice is available when i need it.

Daisy - thanks for the wealth of information!

I'll definitely be taking advantage of the resources on the website!
 
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sanguine

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Hi Jon, welcome. First thing, don't panic, and as has been said you've come to a good place to get you started in managing the condition.

Second thing, it's not your fault. T2 is caused by one or more metabolic flaws - there are plenty of obese people who will never get diabetes and plenty of thin ones who do.

Many of us use the SD Codefree meter (Amazon, Ebay etc) because the strips are about the most cost-effective.

If you need to lose weight, LCHF worked for me (www.dietdoctor.com/lchf) but read around and see what is most appropriate for you. But the main thing is carb reduction, and a meter to assess how your blood sugars spike to different foods.

Good luck and ask any questions!
 
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