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Nethers66

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Hi just joined the forum, I'm a relativly fit and healthy 48yr old, good diet, moderate exercise, slightly overweight BMI 28, just had a routine health check at the Doctors on Thursday and i've been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes.

I was understandably shocked and didn't get all the relevant figures but my HbA1c level was 102 it should be no more than 48, additionally my Cholesterol is high at 6.8

I have none of the symptoms associated with Type 2 and their is no history in my family.

As my diet/excercise is pretty good already the Doc is going to prescribe medication to assist in reducing the levels.

i've bought an Accu-Chek Glucose monitor and it confirms pretty much the diagnosis its showing about 10.8 - 11.7 mmol/L

I've an appointment with the Diabetic team on 5th Jan, but i'm already taking steps - I've done some research and to improve my already good diet, I'm starting a Low Carb, increased Fat diet controversial i know.

Thanks for reading, I guess i'll be around for a while........
 
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Welcome and good for you for being proactive! LCHF is not controversial for all those of us who practice it and benefit from it. Despite the holiday season, gobsmack your DN with your progress between now and 5 January and minimise your need for meds!

Good luck!
 
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Hi Nethers66
Try not to worry too much you haven found a great place here with loads of great supportive people full of brilliant advice @daisy1 will be along with her information for newly diagnosed shortly.
In the mean time please feel free to ask any questions you may have.
 
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@Nethers66

Hello Nethers66 and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you need to and members will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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DeejayR

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As my diet/excercise is pretty good already the Doc is going to prescribe medication to assist in reducing the levels.
I've done some research and to improve my already good diet, I'm starting a Low Carb, increased Fat diet controversial i know.
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It would be interesting to know what your doctor thinks is a pretty good diet, and if s/he would be prepared to hold off the meds while you take control. And don't worry, LCHF isn't controversial here, so welcome.
 
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Nethers66

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It would be interesting to know what your doctor thinks is a pretty good diet, and if s/he would be prepared to hold off the meds while you take control. And don't worry, LCHF isn't controversial here, so welcome.

Thanks for your reply i'd like to stay off meds for as long as possible so i'll certainly pursue this, as for my diet, I eat meat, fruit & veg, almost no ready meals, no fast food, infrequent take aways, I don't drink alcohol, occasional cakes etc. so I guess compared to the average UK person its a good diet? I think in the most part my sugar intake comes from the usual carbs bread, potatoes, soft drinks etc which is my first hit of removal from the diet
 
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Yesss ... you're pointing in the right direction, so now start your journey! Tell us what you think is a good diet for you after you've had time to read Daisy's introduction. You might be surprised ;)
 
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Hi and welcome.

My first observation was your BMI, which at 28 is a bit more than "slightly overweight" so maybe you could have a go at reducing that. Otherwise you are on the right track, and cutting carbs will shift that weight. We also need to be careful with fruit and milk. Many fruits are just too full of sugar for us type 2's. Berries seem to be the best choice.

Use your meter to test out your meals, test before and 2hrs after your first bite. Look at the rise. If it's more than 2mmol/l there are too many carbs in the meal. (ideally under 1.5mmol/l)

Great to see you are being proactive. Keep going and those levels will drop.
 
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image.jpg A warm welcome to the forum.
 
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Hi and welcome. The only controversial aspect of LCHF as far as I'm concerned is that some newbies may think it means they should increase their fat. In practice you should have as much protein and fat as you need and want whilst low-carbing. Increasing the fat is to some exptent optional as long as you have enough calorie and nutrient intake.
 
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Warm welcome to us all .
Take your time to read up on things .
It can feel a tad overwhelming or confusing at first with so much
suggested or talked about to you at first .

Time is great as it lends a hand to help you find
and feel your way around all things .
 
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beatdise

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Hi just joined the forum, I'm a relativly fit and healthy 48yr old, good diet, moderate exercise, slightly overweight BMI 28, just had a routine health check at the Doctors on Thursday and i've been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes.

I was understandably shocked and didn't get all the relevant figures but my HbA1c level was 102 it should be no more than 48, additionally my Cholesterol is high at 6.8

I have none of the symptoms associated with Type 2 and their is no history in my family.

As my diet/excercise is pretty good already the Doc is going to prescribe medication to assist in reducing the levels.

i've bought an Accu-Chek Glucose monitor and it confirms pretty much the diagnosis its showing about 10.8 - 11.7 mmol/L

I've an appointment with the Diabetic team on 5th Jan, but i'm already taking steps - I've done some research and to improve my already good diet, I'm starting a Low Carb, increased Fat diet controversial i know.

Thanks for reading, I guess i'll be around for a while........
Welcome to the forum. You are in the right place.. LOADS of knowledge, wisdom, and FRANKNESS here from people who have been there, done it and definitely got the T-shirt. Main rule is whilst we are all on the same journey with the same common ailment, we are all also unique and what works for one may not work for another. So I guess we all read about others experiences see it works for us and use what we need to improve our health and get control of this illness. Great that you are already relatively active, fit and healthy. That gives you a good start. However, managing your diet, reducing carbs and eradicating sugar will help you reduce your BG readings and get as close to normal as your lifestyle allows you to and what desire you have to make he change. After that if you need meds so be it, I came of my tablet after month. But I am not counting any chickens yet until I have my 3 month Hba1c next month. So best of luck on your journey at least you have discovered it 10 years earlier than me. You have so much of your potential healthy life ahead of you. Good luck
 
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Hi and welcome.

My first observation was your BMI, which at 28 is a bit more than "slightly overweight" so maybe you could have a go at reducing that. Otherwise you are on the right track, and cutting carbs will shift that weight. We also need to be careful with fruit and milk. Many fruits are just too full of sugar for us type 2's. Berries seem to be the best choice.

Use your meter to test out your meals, test before and 2hrs after your first bite. Look at the rise. If it's more than 2mmol/l there are too many carbs in the meal. (ideally under 1.5mmol/l)

Great to see you are being proactive. Keep going and those levels will drop.
@Bluetit1802 You don't miss a trick do you. You are quite right 28 is closer to obese then it is slightly overweight well spotted and great advice. Legend amongst legends!
 
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@Bluetit1802 You don't miss a trick do you. You are quite right 28 is closer to obese then it is slightly overweight well spotted and great advice. Legend amongst legends!

LOL. From experience. I used to kid myself I wasn't much overweight until I checked the BMI websites and saw I was 30.
 
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LOL. From experience. I used to kid myself I wasn't much overweight until I checked the BMI websites and saw I was 30.
Spot on. We all do that. My new target weight is now 12 stone. Weighed today and the needle was closer to 13 and a half stone then it was to 14. I realise now that 12 is achievable and desirable for me now i know what to do and don't have to starve myself but just eat the right foods and smaller portions. It becomes a virtuous cycle because as you you see improvements it motivates you to keep going.
 
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Nethers66

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Thanks for all your comments and support, Since yesterday, i've made changes to my diet, reducing carbs, looking at food labels its shocking !
 
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Nethers66

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Been back to the docs this morning to have another blood test either to double check the results or for the diabetic nurse on the 5th Jan, anyway i've now got a copy of my original blood test results and i've popped them in my signature for future reference.
 

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...i've made changes to my diet, reducing carbs, looking at food labels its shocking !

It sure is.

It's not until you get a wake up call like this that you realise how bad carbs are when you eat so much of them
I've noticed that the world is full of sugar and that there are so many temptations
The folks around here seem a good bunch and will keep us in-line as long as we are honest with sharing what we eat etc
 
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Good to see you know it is about carbs rather than just sugar. work on that. Can you tell us what a typical days eating would be for you?