New diabetes 2

clarejenkins

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I have had borderline high fasting blood sugars for a least 20 years and inconclusive GTTs. As far as I knew I had never had an HbA1c done until I went to a private health screening clinic last year and was told it was 52% and I should see my GP. It was repeated at 53% and so I was told I now had Diabetes 2. Apparently it had been tested before and been 48% some years ago and at that time I was just told to lose weight and exercise :-(. Anyhow I now have no idea how often I should be testing my blood sugars as the website seems to suggest that this is a good way of controlling the HbA1c. I had bought a meter (Accucheck Compact Plus black) 3 years ago and the readings were always about 8.6. I have started testing again First thing in the mornings it is about 8.3 and today it was 11.2 in the afternoon today. Should I be testing before or after meals? How many time s a day. I am on an eating programme to lose weight. This allows protein and veg and also carbs in the form of Ryvita and fruit if I am hungry between meals. Any advice out there? I am 68.
 
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To begin with you should test before meals and then two hours after the meal. This will give you an idea how much of a rise the meal gave you. Next time you eat the same meal make adjustments if the rise was large and in particular if the after reading was more than 8.5. The adjustments will be to cut down on the carbohydrates.

There is no need to test every meal. Use your meter as and when you want to in order to learn about the food you eat.
 

Bluetit1802

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Hello Clare and welcome.

You seem to have received poor advice when you had borderline fasting readings, and especially when you had an HbA1c of 48 some years ago. Had you been given better advice you might have prevented the slide over to full blown type 2.

Anyway, you are where you are now, and well done for finding this forum, where you will find loads of help and support. Well done also for getting your meter. It will be your most essential tool in helping you control this disease.

Your current levels are high (although your HbA1c of 53 is not particularly high)

Diet is the key, both for blood sugar control and weight loss, and happily the same diet works wonders for both. The diet is low carb (every meal and snack). Rice, bread, potatoes, pasta and anything made with flour should be very much reduced, and we also need to be careful with milk and fruit because they contain a lot of sugar.

Test before you eat and again 2 hours after your first bite. The aim is to keep the rise down under 2mmol/l, preferably a lot less. If it goes above this, there are too many carbs in that meal and you need to either reduce the portion size or avoid them completely for a while, until your levels drop to normal. Test every meal where there are carbs, milk, or fruit. Keep a food diary including portions and record your levels alongside. You can then look back and hopefully learn something.

Have a good read round, and please ask as many questions as you wish. Someone will help.

Meanwhile @daisy1 will be along with some advice for new members.
 
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daisy1

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@clarejenkins

Hello Clare and welcome to the forum :)

You have received some really useful replies here. Here is some more information, which we give to new members, which I hope you will find helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 130,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Hi Clare

Nice to meet you , lots to read and think about ...hope all goes well with chosen diet pathway and health needs ...

You will meet lots of members here , lots of support to ...

Look forward to,chatting to you ....best wishes ..kat
 

clarejenkins

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Thank you all for your help and support - what an interesting forum this is
 
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sanguine

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Welcome Clare :)