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[JTL]

I was very confused too especially when the people here said more or less the opposite to what the NHS in general were telling me.
The NHS had me getting worse putting on more weight sugar levels out of control so I thought I'd give the low carb high fat life style a go.
My surgery are not happy but admit I'm the only diabetic on their books that has lost weight got blood sugar under control have lowered my cholesterol without medication which I'm allergic to lowered my blood pressure while all those taking the surgeries advice are stagnant or getting worse.
They are looking into what I taught them which is what I learned here off the people on this site.
Have a look here at Low Carb High Fat for beginners .... http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

 

[jack412]

American diabetic association
Position Statement

http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf
Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;
therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.

In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich [mono fats-rich]
eating pattern may benefit glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.

 

[JTL]

Your doc may tell you the best breakfast cereal is Weetabix .... it isn't.
Two hours after eating it you will likely have a sugar spike and then be hungry again .
Breakfast cereals should be a no no until you have figured out via a meter what works for you and what works against you.

Changed word of will tell you into 'may tell you' anna29

 

[graj0]

I was very confused too especially when the people here said more or less the opposite to what the NHS in general were telling me.
The NHS had me getting worse putting on more weight sugar levels out of control so I thought I'd give the low carb high fat life style a go.
My surgery are not happy but admit I'm the only diabetic on their books that has lost weight got blood sugar under control have lowered my cholesterol without medication which I'm allergic to lowered my blood pressure while all those taking the surgeries advice are stagnant or getting worse.
They are looking into what I taught them which is what I learned here off the people on this site.
Have a look here at Low Carb High Fat for beginners.

Like you, I followed what the NHS were telling me, except for the eating more carbs bit. After 15 years of steadily getting worse BG, struggling to lose any weight despite significant calorie deprivation and increased exercise, I got to the stage where I thought "It really doesn't matter whose advice I follow, I can't get any worse that I am doing what the NHS told me to do". I was right, I didn't get any worse, I got significantly better. All I did was stop eating pasta/rice/bread/potato, so it didn't even cost me anything. What I didn't do was automatically up my fat intake although as I've mention on another thread, I don't worry too much, I have to obey my stomach's ability or lack of it, to tolerate fat.
If anything I would just like to encourage newcomers to this idea of not doing what the NHS tell you, not to waste 15 years like I did, give it a go, at least you can see what's good for you and what's not so good. Of course using the old meter is essential.

 

[Ali H]

Read Low Carb, High Fat, Food Revolution, it is an eye opener. I am going all out to lower my carbs even more now and enjoy the fat. There is no proven link between saturated fat and heart disease, but you need to read the book or similar articles to learn more about it. I have done low fat high carbs for 30 odd years of my life, cutting my carbs since being diagnosed with diabetes and now cutting them even more. I am sick of being fat so something must work somewhere along the line, not that the lowering of carbs worked up until now hence I am going even lower. Nothing wrong with my calorie intake either, I can eat 1200 cals a day, walk daily and still not drop an ounce.

 

[rowan]

Your doc may tell you the best breakfast cereal is Weetabix .... it isn't.
Two hours after eating it you will likely have a sugar spike and then be hungry again .
Breakfast cereals should be a no no until you have figured out via a meter what works for you and what works against you.

When I saw my DN last week I told her I'd discovered I couldn't eat porridge after a huge spike and she said 'That's ok, you can have weetabix instead'

 

[Ali H]

Rowan you just despair don't you, these people are meant to be healthcare professionals, are they totally out of tune with new findings that Scandinavian countries are already adopting alongside a lot of members of forums like these because it really does work?

I care for my parents, unfortunately my Dad was told it was fine to aim for 10 before bed so now he permanently runs in the teens because he flatly refuses all the advice I give him, he won't stop eating, won't moderate his diet and generally treats me like dirt because I don't have the word Doctor in front of my name.

Ali

 

[JTL]

When I saw my DN last week I told her I'd discovered I couldn't eat porridge after a huge spike and she said 'That's ok, you can have weetabix instead'

A lot of us have been there!
I swear if it wasn't for this place I'd be near deaths door by now.
This place may have saved my life.

 

[JTL]

I have actually started having porridge again and seem to be tolerating it really well but I bung a tablespoon full of coconut oil in it so it has plenty of fat in it and it tastes great too.

 

[Daphne917]

I have actually started having porridge again and seem to be tolerating it really well but I bung a tablespoon full of coconut oil in it so it has plenty of fat in it and it tastes great too.

I find that I can have hot oat cereal with oatmeal and flaxseed and not have a spike.

 

[graj0]

I am sick of being fat so something must work somewhere along the line, not that the lowering of carbs worked up until now hence I am going even lower. Nothing wrong with my calorie intake either, I can eat 1200 cals a day, walk daily and still not drop an ounce.

We could be kindred spirits. I don't know if this information helps but it's what I have discovered about myself. Basically my metabolism is broke, anybody who laughs at that or even the expression "slow metabolism" is actually showing their lack of knowledge. I'm still struggling with the technicality, it's all to do with body biochemistry and the Krebs Cycle, which I'm told kids now study in 'A' level Biology.

In my two years since going low carb (approx. 80gms a day), I have eaten the same sort of thing every day, a homemade smoothy type of thing for breakfast, veggies for lunch, and veggies and either fish/meat/quorn for dinner. I can easily keep to 1,000 calories, my treat is poached egg and toast on Saturday and bacon and toast on Sunday, still about 1200 calories, because that's a brunch not a breakfast.

In that two years, I lost 3 stone in the first 5 months, then nothing, then another 1 1/2 stone between the end of November and early January this year and now nothing again although I may have actually gained, it's tricky with my fluid levels going up and down with the moon. I either need 40,000 volts or Amphetamine Sulphate to kick start things. GP not to keen on either, so I'm stuck, knowing where the problem lies but no way of knowing how to overcome it.

 

[Daphne917]

[QUOTE="Ali H, I am sick of being fat so something must work somewhere along the line, not that the lowering of carbs worked up until now hence I am going even lower. Nothing wrong with my calorie intake either, I can eat 1200 cals a day, walk daily and still not drop an ounce.[/QUOTE]
Hopefully you will find by eating less carbs and more fat you will lose weight. I have always had weight problems and, after my body began 'shutting down' whilst on a VLC diet, was told years ago by a specialist that I was one of the few patients whu could honestly blame their metabolism and that I would find it very difficult to lose weight. In October 2013 I started treatment for an under active thyroid and I found this forum last year and began low carbing in August. Since then I've managed to lose nearly 2 stone - less than a lot of members on here but an achievement for me. Those of us with metabolism problems have proved it can be done but it's just finding what suits us and, it seems to me, LCHF does it for most of us.

 

[Brunneria]

@sallybee

Hi,

Has your blood glucose meter arrived yet, and how is it going?

I wanted to check in with you because you mentioned that you were diagnosed with anaemia recently.
It is an established fact that anaemia may affect the results of an hba1c test, so the figures you were given as a 3 monthly average may not be as accurate as expected.

In that case, your meter readings will be a better guide.

Hope that helps.