Statins and diabetes

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It is more than a possibility. There are warnings on the statin manufacturers websites about raised glucose levels, and on some brands even on the leaflets enclosed with the tablets. It is well known and not disputed by the manufacturers.
 
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It is more than a possibility. There are warnings on the statin manufacturers websites about raised glucose levels, and on some brands even on the leaflets enclosed with the tablets. It is well known and not disputed by the manufacturers.
That's interesting @Bluetit1802 It's not something I was aware of, as I don't take them and I am even less likely to take them now. It seems a bit counterproductive to prescribe something for a condition (cholesterol) that can exacerbate something which can cause heart problems which the original prescription was trying to avoid?
 
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Why should BigPharma care about that when they're making $billions from them?
 
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Hi, I'm Glynn and on Statins as there is a history of heart attacks in my family I.e. My Dad died at 52, uncle 58. I am 55 so am on borrowed time so to speak! I have trouble with BG levels which occasionally seesaw, however my Doctor is a Diabetes specialist and advocates there use! Trouble is I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.!!
I just keep a closer eye on my BG levels by regular checking, what else can you do?
 
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My BS rose due to statins and since coming off them both my BS and cholesterol have reduced.
 
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I was on a high dose of Lipitor but stopped when I had severe side effects. no one mentioned it could be the statin So much back pain I was unable to walk more than 200 metres or stand for more than 20 minutes. I can now walk 6 miles. I am now Prediabetic and diabetes is a possible side effect of statins. The drug companies must be making a fortune from these pills that the government allows the NHS to hand out like sweeties. My doctor still tries to blackmail me into taking them. I have coronary heart disease and have had a heart by pass, but I'd sooner have quality of life over quantity, so I won't be taking them again.
 

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I've been taken off statins twice as there were "issues" with my liver function.... which went away after coming off.... and my doc wanted to put me back on them after my last HbcA1... not done it.... waiting to see how life is like without them...
 

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I was on a high dose of Lipitor but stopped when I had severe side effects. no one mentioned it could be the statin So much back pain I was unable to walk more than 200 metres or stand for more than 20 minutes. I can now walk 6 miles. I am now Prediabetic and diabetes is a possible side effect of statins. The drug companies must be making a fortune from these pills that the government allows the NHS to hand out like sweeties. My doctor still tries to blackmail me into taking them. I have coronary heart disease and have had a heart by pass, but I'd sooner have quality of life over quantity, so I won't be taking them again.
It's such a hard decision to make isn't it @caliban . I too have cardiac problems but have refused statins in the past despite having high cholesterol, as I am unable to understand why something that the body produces naturally can be so harmful (if you believe the medical profession). Also I am on an enormous cocktail of different meds and just couldn't face adding to the bubbling cauldron :(
It's probably illogical, but when you hear soooooo many stories about the side effects it doesn't make sense to ignore others' experiences, Imo.
Also my brother-in-law takes them because he has slightly raised cholesterol and is crippled with muscular pain, but 'oh no the doctor knows best, so I must keep taking them'. Sigh!
 
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Hi, I'm Glynn and on Statins as there is a history of heart attacks in my family I.e. My Dad died at 52, uncle 58. I am 55 so am on borrowed time so to speak! I have trouble with BG levels which occasionally seesaw, however my Doctor is a Diabetes specialist and advocates there use! Trouble is I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't.!!
I just keep a closer eye on my BG levels by regular checking, what else can you do?
Yes, what do we do @Glynn123rifles? It's quite scary isn't it and we rely to a certain extent on the medical profession to give us best advice, but unfortunately they often seem as unaware of possible problems as many patients are.
 

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I've been taken off statins twice as there were "issues" with my liver function.... which went away after coming off.... and my doc wanted to put me back on them after my last HbcA1... not done it.... waiting to see how life is like without them...
Interesting that liver function returned to normal after stopping them @hankjam . Can I ask how long ago that was and how you are feeling in yourself?
 

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All I know is that since starting a LCHF diet my cholesterol and all my lipids are better than they were when I was actually on statins - I stopped taking them and then informed my GP. We had a few debates about it and eventually she had to agree my diet was the best medicine and suggested I take a low dose aspirin instead.
 
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It's such a hard decision to make isn't it @caliban . I too have cardiac problems but have refused statins in the past despite having high cholesterol, as I am unable to understand why something that the body produces naturally can be so harmful (if you believe the medical profession). Also I am on an enormous cocktail of different meds and just couldn't face adding to the bubbling cauldron :(
It's probably illogical, but when you hear soooooo many stories about the side effects it doesn't make sense to ignore others' experiences, Imo.
Also my brother-in-law takes them because he has slightly raised cholesterol and is crippled with muscular pain, but 'oh no the doctor knows best, so I must keep taking them'. Sigh!
So difficult this one , Jane I to take medications for other health problems when I found out how high my cholestrol was I choose to try them , no problrms so far ....and my numbers are good ...I might try reducing the statins at some point ....but I don't want blocked or furred arteries if they are working for me at the moment ...it is a real,pain adding another tablet to the list ...with you on that one ...never easy ...

Yes I admit I suffer with muscle pain at times , not certain if its the statins ...then an opposite , I see older relatives who take them and they are running round with lots of energy .... Leaves me confussed ...
 
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All I know is that since starting a LCHF diet my cholesterol and all my lipids are better than they were when I was actually on statins - I stopped taking them and then informed my GP. We had a few debates about it and eventually she had to agree my diet was the best medicine and suggested I take a low dose aspirin instead.
That's the sort of story I love to hear, thanks @Bluetit1802 . Your GP sounds great.
 

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So difficult this one , Jane I to take medications for other health problems when I found out how high my cholestrol was I choose to try them , no problrms so far ....and my numbers are good ...I might try reducing the statins at some point ....but I don't want blocked or furred arteries if they are working for me at the moment ...it is a real,pain adding another tablet to the list ...with you on that one ...never easy ...

Yes I admit I suffer with muscle pain at times , not certain if its the statins ...then an opposite , I see older relatives who take them and they are running round with lots of energy .... Leaves me confussed ...
It's not easy is it Kat, especially as you get a little older and expect aches and pains anyway, to know whether it's caused by medication or is just a part of the aging process. I confess it worries me reading about the muscle destruction caused by statins and ...............hang on a minute, as I was typing that I remembered that the heart is the biggest muscle in the body, so is that immune to attack by statins I wonder.
Oh crikey, perhaps I should stop thinking about this.
 

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Don't forget statins haven't been properly tested on women. Low cholesterol in older women causes dementia. I won't take them, my GP just ticks a box on my record that I won't.
 
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Don't forget statins haven't been properly tested on women. Low cholesterol in older women causes dementia. I won't take them, my GP just ticks a box on my record that I won't.
Really? Now you live and learn, I didn't know that. How on earth can they market and prescribe drugs for everyone that haven't been tested fully. :banghead:
 
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