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Hi, I don't have diabetes, but my husband has been a diabetic for nearly 20 years. We've been through an ulcerated leg which was hell for about 18 months, most recently his sugars are all over the place giving him a high reading when going to bed and about 10 when he wakes in the morning, as I cook and prepare all his meals I really need some information as to what I should be giving him. He says it won't make any difference as there is no rhyme or reason to his levels altering, would love some advice.
 

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Hi @timerich ,
Is your husband a type 1 or type 2 Diabetic, and what sort of diet do you follow ?
Any exercise, weight problems, on insulin etc ?
Based on the above I can offer some ideas
 

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Hi Timerich, it's never to late to take good control and help hit the brakes on further diabetic complications.

As @Randburg said it would be easier to advise if we know what type of diabetes your partner has and what his current diet looks like. Although you're not new to diabetes I'll tag @daisy1 who will pass by at some point with some good information for you to consider.

Meanwhile have a look at this link: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf , many of our members have excellent results with this and with variations of it.

Stay with the forum, have a good read around and ask as many questions as you need.

All the best
Daks
 
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@timerich

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

You need to reduce the carbs in your husband's diet in order to help him to control his levels. You will get some good advice from members here, and in the meantime here is the information we give to new members and I think you will find this helpful too although you will already know some of the advice. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 140,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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timerich

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Thanks so much for replying, it feels great to feel I'm not on my own. My husband has type 2 diabetes and is testing around 10 which can sometimes go up to 19 (for no apparent reason) Fortunately we have a blood meter and so I'm now getting him to test before meals, I'll now get him to test after. My main concern is lunch time if his blood sugar is 10 and he's hungry what can I give him to eat (he doesn't take metformin at this time).Should he wait until his blood sugar has dropped.
 

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Cut the bread spuds pasta rice noodles but especially the bread .... especially white bread.
Many of us here are on low carb high fat diets and thriving.
On this diet I have lowered all my medications because ...
My blood sugars are now under control.
My blood pressure has come down.
My bad cholesterol is down and good cholesterol rising.
My weight is down and stable.
Have a look here ..... http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

The good news is lots of egg and bacon and chicken and fish and veg and cheese and cream .....
All the best.
 
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why can't everyone get on........

timerich

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Cut the bread spuds pasta rice noodles but especially the bread .... especially white bread.
Many of us here are on low carb high fat diets and thriving.
On this diet I have lowered all my medications because ...
My blood sugars are now under control.
My blood pressure has come down.
My bad cholesterol is down and good cholesterol rising.
My weight is down and stable.
Have a look here ..... http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

The good news is lots of egg and bacon and chicken and fish and veg and cheese and cream .....
All the best.
 

timerich

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I think low carb is the way to go, it's just rethinking will try the site you recommended...thanks :)
 

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Hi, I don't have diabetes, but my husband has been a diabetic for nearly 20 years. We've been through an ulcerated leg which was hell for about 18 months, most recently his sugars are all over the place giving him a high reading when going to bed and about 10 when he wakes in the morning, as I cook and prepare all his meals I really need some information as to what I should be giving him. He says it won't make any difference as there is no rhyme or reason to his levels altering, would love some advice.
Have you/your husband considered doing the DESMOND or New EXPERT course. I understand that there is a new type 2 managenemt course so ask your diabetes nurse about any of the courses. I'm type 1 and did the DAFNE course in 2013 and learnt so much more than what the care team was telling me. I've now reduced my HBA1C and BSs are better controlled.
 

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Cut the bread spuds pasta rice noodles but especially the bread .... especially white bread.
Many of us here are on low carb high fat diets and thriving.
On this diet I have lowered all my medications because ...
My blood sugars are now under control.
My blood pressure has come down.
My bad cholesterol is down and good cholesterol rising.
My weight is down and stable.
Have a look here ..... http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf

The good news is lots of egg and bacon and chicken and fish and veg and cheese and cream .....
All the best.
Hi Timerich, it's never to late to take good control and help hit the brakes on further diabetic complications.

As @Randburg said it would be easier to advise if we know what type of diabetes your partner has and what his current diet looks like. Although you're not new to diabetes I'll tag @daisy1 who will pass by at some point with some good information for you to consider.

Meanwhile have a look at this link: http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf , many of our members have excellent results with this and with variations of it.

Stay with the forum, have a good read around and ask as many questions as you need.

All the best
Daks
well done :)
 

timerich

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Thanks for the replies, my husband has type 2 diabetes. Began the LCHF yesterday...so far so good.
 
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timerich

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Have you/your husband considered doing the DESMOND or New EXPERT course. I understand that there is a new type 2 managenemt course so ask your diabetes nurse about any of the courses. I'm type 1 and did the DAFNE course in 2013 and learnt so much more than what the care team was telling me. I've now reduced my HBA1C and BSs are better controlled.

Very interested in the course are they through the NHS or private?
 

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Have you/your husband considered doing the DESMOND or New EXPERT course. I understand that there is a new type 2 managenemt course so ask your diabetes nurse about any of the courses. I'm type 1 and did the DAFNE course in 2013 and learnt so much more than what the care team was telling me. I've now reduced my HBA1C and BSs are better controlled.
Just out of interest .. Did the course advocate LCHF or the satndard NICE eating plan ?
 

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Welcome to the forum. Both of us did Desmond a few weeks after hubby was diagnosed It goes through everything and we both came out with a much clearer understanding of diabetes. They do teach the traditional cut fats thing but did acknowledge that carbohydrates do cause a rise in blood sugars therefore you should it wholemeal.....we had already started going low carb and the difference is amazing. It would be worth trying to see if your hubbys levels come down