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Hi All,
I am not LADA, and so this isn't really the right place to post this - if anyone objects, just let me know and I will ask a mod to move it.
But the reason I am posting here is because you lot (LADAites) seem to have an excellent understanding of the kind of fine-tuning of BG control, without insulin, and I would REALLY appreciate your input.
So, I'm 48, obese, LCHF, diet and (a bit of walking). Recently been trying Berberine as a supplement, to no discernable effect, mainly because I keep forgetting the tablets.
A lifetime history of reactive hypoglycaemia, and a truly f*cked up hormone system, with polycystic ovary syndrome and a wee benign tumour in my pituitry gland that pumps out extra prolactin, which knocks nearly every other hormone out of sync. I'm prone to liver dumps and adrenalin silliness that kick in when my BG drops below 5mmol/l - that is full hypo symptoms and a lingering malaise that lasts up to 3 days. I also have a dawn phenomenon that is approx +2.5 of my usual fasting.
Since finding this forum and switching from LC to LCHF, I have achieved what I consider to be good control of my BG. Rarely above 7mmol/l, rarely below the 5mmol/l barrier. I've been in a happy place, and eating to my meter. Dawn phenomenon is higher than I would like, but has not responded to LCHF, and reacts massively to stress and disturbed sleep, suggesting that the stress hormones are in charge.
For the first 10 months or so of LCHF I was very slowly losing weight (an unexpected bonus), but then the weight loss stalled.
In retrospect, it was when I discovered how fab I felt on higher protein, and started eating it more (e.g. 2 good sausages at breakfast, crustless quiche at lunch and a 2-3 chicken thighs for evening meal, with accompanying veg, cream and cheese, maybe some berries and cream for pud).
I was still in the 5.5-7ish range, and it took a while to realise that gluconeogenesis was playing a part. Bernstein is great, isn't he?
Now I HAVE realised it, I have been cutting back on the protein, in the hope of lowering BG to the bottom end of my comfort zone, a bit more weight loss, and less pressure on my beta cells.
(sorry about all that background info)
But here's my query:
Do you have any idea why cutting back on the protein is making me feel pretty cr*ppy no matter how much fat I eat? (wobbly, hollow, more lethargic)
It ain't carb flu - I've been in and around ketosis consistently for 18 months.
My average BG has probably only dropped by 0.5-1.0mmol/l or less, at any given time since reducing the protein.
My carbs are usually 20-40g a day, rarely above 50g.
I'm trying to make up my mind whether to try and stick it out for a few weeks of feeling miserable, and hope I adjust.
Or shrug, accept that with my ridiculous hormonal cocktail and other issues, if the higher protein is a good idea and I should go back to it.
I am not LADA, and so this isn't really the right place to post this - if anyone objects, just let me know and I will ask a mod to move it.
But the reason I am posting here is because you lot (LADAites) seem to have an excellent understanding of the kind of fine-tuning of BG control, without insulin, and I would REALLY appreciate your input.
So, I'm 48, obese, LCHF, diet and (a bit of walking). Recently been trying Berberine as a supplement, to no discernable effect, mainly because I keep forgetting the tablets.
A lifetime history of reactive hypoglycaemia, and a truly f*cked up hormone system, with polycystic ovary syndrome and a wee benign tumour in my pituitry gland that pumps out extra prolactin, which knocks nearly every other hormone out of sync. I'm prone to liver dumps and adrenalin silliness that kick in when my BG drops below 5mmol/l - that is full hypo symptoms and a lingering malaise that lasts up to 3 days. I also have a dawn phenomenon that is approx +2.5 of my usual fasting.
Since finding this forum and switching from LC to LCHF, I have achieved what I consider to be good control of my BG. Rarely above 7mmol/l, rarely below the 5mmol/l barrier. I've been in a happy place, and eating to my meter. Dawn phenomenon is higher than I would like, but has not responded to LCHF, and reacts massively to stress and disturbed sleep, suggesting that the stress hormones are in charge.
For the first 10 months or so of LCHF I was very slowly losing weight (an unexpected bonus), but then the weight loss stalled.
In retrospect, it was when I discovered how fab I felt on higher protein, and started eating it more (e.g. 2 good sausages at breakfast, crustless quiche at lunch and a 2-3 chicken thighs for evening meal, with accompanying veg, cream and cheese, maybe some berries and cream for pud).
I was still in the 5.5-7ish range, and it took a while to realise that gluconeogenesis was playing a part. Bernstein is great, isn't he?
Now I HAVE realised it, I have been cutting back on the protein, in the hope of lowering BG to the bottom end of my comfort zone, a bit more weight loss, and less pressure on my beta cells.
(sorry about all that background info)
But here's my query:
Do you have any idea why cutting back on the protein is making me feel pretty cr*ppy no matter how much fat I eat? (wobbly, hollow, more lethargic)
It ain't carb flu - I've been in and around ketosis consistently for 18 months.
My average BG has probably only dropped by 0.5-1.0mmol/l or less, at any given time since reducing the protein.
My carbs are usually 20-40g a day, rarely above 50g.
I'm trying to make up my mind whether to try and stick it out for a few weeks of feeling miserable, and hope I adjust.
Or shrug, accept that with my ridiculous hormonal cocktail and other issues, if the higher protein is a good idea and I should go back to it.