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rusty101

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Hello All,

I went to the doctors on Friday as had been feeling really thirsty for a few weeks, drinking loads more than usual. When doing any physical work drank even more, loads in fact. I am having an old house renovated at the moment so thought it was the dust when visiting that was doing it but went to the doctors just in case. The doctor took my Blood Sugar reading, which was 27.7. He then gave me a letter to take to the hospital that day. I went to the hospital and was taken in for three days, got out yesterday. Spent the first night on a drip which got my BS down to 6+. I then went onto insulin injections and it went back up but they got it down to the teens before I left. They upped the dosages for me to do at home to bring it down further.

I now have a kit to inject insulin four times a day. Before breakfast, before lunch, before evening meal and at night (different type of insulin at night).

The readings I have taken so far are a bit sporadic. This morning 8.7, before lunch 13.0, before evening meal 4.9, 2 hours after evening meal 19.9. Is it normal for the readings to be so up and down?
 
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A warm welccome to the forum @rusty101

Your bg levels will be like this for a while until you get your insulin doses right, I'd suggest you keep a detailed bg diary and keep in touch with your DSN and they will advise you on adjusting your insulin, its early days yet so try not to worry.
 
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Hello All,

I went to the doctors on Friday as had been feeling really thirsty for a few weeks, drinking loads more than usual. When doing any physical work drank even more, loads in fact. I am having an old house renovated at the moment so thought it was the dust when visiting that was doing it but went to the doctors just in case. The doctor took my Blood Sugar reading, which was 27.7. He then gave me a letter to take to the hospital that day. I went to the hospital and was taken in for three days, got out yesterday. Spent the first night on a drip which got my BS down to 6+. I then went onto insulin injections and it went back up but they got it down to the teens before I left. They upped the dosages for me to do at home to bring it down further.

I now have a kit to inject insulin four times a day. Before breakfast, before lunch, before evening meal and at night (different type of insulin at night).

The readings I have taken so far are a bit sporadic. This morning 8.7, before lunch 13.0, before evening meal 4.9, 2 hours after evening meal 19.9. Is it normal for the readings to be so up and down?
Yes,it is. Im abbie, im 12 and have had diabetes for 10 years, 11 on the 6th july. It is different for everyone, but my blood level can be 6.2 at night, and then 23 in the morning. if you are concerned, try contacting your doctor xo
 
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Hi. First, you need to get the Basal (daily insulin) right. Aim for a morning fasting suagr level of 5 - 7 mmol. Are you carb-counting i.e. varying the number of Bolus (rapid insulin) shots to match the carbs in the mealtime carbs? If not, this needs to be done to help get your levels more stable. The surgery should give you advice, but most people start at 1 unit of rapid to 10gm of carbs and tweak it based on meter redings 2-3 hours after a meal. If you are overweight then do ensure you keep the carbs down which you need to do anyway and this helps reduce insulin needs and hence blood sugar swings.
 

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Hello,

Thanks for the advice and support, much appreciated. I haven’t been carb counting yet but sounds like I will need to start getting my head round that. I have started to see the relationship between what carbs I eat and resulting Blood Sugar levels. I am back at the doctors later in the week and at the clinic next week so will get some advice then. I am only slightly overweight but have been keeping the carbs down. Assuming it is a balance between keeping the carbs down, the energy from carbs you need to function and the intake of insulin. i.e. don’t drop the carb intake so low that it effects your energy levels just to keep the insulin intake to a minimum, find the balance.

Another question that I was going to ask at the clinic but thought would ask here. The night time insulin is called Lantus. If I take my Blood Sugar level on a night and it is within normal limits (5-7) do I still take the Lantus or do I miss it? This hasn’t happened yet.
 

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Hi there :) in response to your question - still take the lantus!! If you don't you'll find your levels will go up overnight, as you'll have no insulin in your system to cope with the glucose your liver naturally kicks out through the night. I would aim to be at around 8 before going to bed, so if you're in the 5-6 region try having a small slice of toast or a biscuit before you head off. If you're at that level before going to bed, but waking up too high or low, your basal insulin may need adjusting but you should speak to your diabetes team before doing that. You'll find altering your basal (Lantus) may take 2-3 days to have an effect too.
Don't panic about your levels as they stand, mine were all over the place for the first 10 days or so, and it often seemed inexplicable. All I can really suggest is to keep a diary of your levels, noting anything significant like exercise or large meals. Try light exercise like walking here and there as personally that makes a big difference.
I didn't start carb counting till about a month after my diagnosis, as I was told I didn't need to before that. Personally I find it a bit ridiculous, carb counting has improved my control so so much, even if I am still in the honeymoon phase. I would push to get on a course, or you can find a lot of useful information online too.
Good luck! Let me know if you need anything, and sorry for rambling! :p
 
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Hi @rusty101 and welcome to the forum.

The levels you have noted above are perfectly normal for just now, it will be all over the place for a period of time.

As @becky.ford93 mentioned above, please always make sure you take your Lantus as this is your background(basal) insulin and is used to keep your levels regular when your not eating and taking fast acting insulin.
 

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Hi rusty101
welcome to the forum :)

lots of good advice already so all i will add is try your best to take it 1 day at a time , and don't stress about an errant result or day of results.
keeping records is a very good idea as you build up a written record of what you did and how your body reacted -- in other words "experience".

I am tagging @daisy1 -- she will be along to post her great pack of info for newly diagnosed.

and ask away if you have any questions.
 
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@rusty101

Hello Rusty and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope it will be helpful to you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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