Told today I have Diabetes

koprano

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I was told today I am diabetic - type 2. My reading was 66. In fact I have been diabetic for over a year as my blood test reading was 50 a year ago, and no one at doctors told me.

In May 2010 I had a heart attach and had a very small stent, so I have been having full blood tests every year, " years ago my reading was 43 and the doc said I was borderline Diabetic and to lose some weight, which I did not do.
I am 5 7 and weight 92kg. My diet is awful, I live alone and never cook. Microwave meals and shop sandwiches. Ice cream beer and curry

I have been told I will attend a 1 day Diabetes clinic where they will discuss my issues and food and exercise.

All I was told by the nurse is I need to lose 3 stone, but to aim for a regular 1lb a week and increase my exercise. I was already in training for the Great North run and I do the 10,000 steps a day.

I am very confused as docs always say cut out fats due to heart attack. So I don't eat butter , cheese eggs or cream ( other than ice cream ). Here I see advice Low carbs high fat,

I know this is a big wake up call, and I need to eat healthy and lose weight.

Thanks for reading
 

DeejayR

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Hello and welcome. I'm sure we can help you get your diabetes under control and this in turn should improve your health all round, including weight loss. I'll tag @daisy1 to give you her excellent guide. Do study it.
 
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Roddy666

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My situation is very similar to yours, in May diagnosed type 2, bs reading 91 told I must have been diabetic a good while to have such a high reading. Height 5 7", weight 15st 8lbs prescribed 2 500mg meterformin.Been on a low carb diet 4 weeks now and down to 14st 10lbs now.
 

Eurobuff

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I was told today I am diabetic - type 2. My reading was 66. In fact I have been diabetic for over a year as my blood test reading was 50 a year ago, and no one at doctors told me.

In May 2010 I had a heart attach and had a very small stent, so I have been having full blood tests every year, " years ago my reading was 43 and the doc said I was borderline Diabetic and to lose some weight, which I did not do.
I am 5 7 and weight 92kg. My diet is awful, I live alone and never cook. Microwave meals and shop sandwiches. Ice cream beer and curry

I have been told I will attend a 1 day Diabetes clinic where they will discuss my issues and food and exercise.

All I was told by the nurse is I need to lose 3 stone, but to aim for a regular 1lb a week and increase my exercise. I was already in training for the Great North run and I do the 10,000 steps a day.

I am very confused as docs always say cut out fats due to heart attack. So I don't eat butter , cheese eggs or cream ( other than ice cream ). Here I see advice Low carbs high fat,

I know this is a big wake up call, and I need to eat healthy and lose weight.

Thanks for reading

Hi, I don't know if you've got something like this already, but I've just bought a Fitbit Charge HR. I think it's brilliant, it monitors your heart rate 24/7 and checks your heart rate each night, so you can see your heart health. You enter your height, age & weight and it tells you how many calories you are burning and when you are burning fat. It also tells you how many steps you've walked, how many flights of stairs you've walked, the distance you've walked/run & how well you've slept. I've only had mine a week so I'm still playing with it, but it seems to be pretty accurate. You can sync it with your phone or computer and you can see graphs of how you are doing. If you have it synced with an iPhone or Android you can also see who's calling you. It's also acts as a watch and alarm as well.
 

4ratbags

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Hi and welcome to the forum. It really is worth giving LCHF a go as its a great way to eat. Most people don't have issues with their cholesterol. You should have a look around the LC forum.
 

daisy1

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@koprano

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

koprano

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Hi, I don't know if you've got something like this already, but I've just bought a Fitbit Charge HR. I think it's brilliant, it monitors your heart rate 24/7 and checks your heart rate each night, so you can see your heart health. You enter your height, age & weight and it tells you how many calories you are burning and when you are burning fat. It also tells you how many steps you've walked, how many flights of stairs you've walked, the distance you've walked/run & how well you've slept. I've only had mine a week so I'm still playing with it, but it seems to be pretty accurate. You can sync it with your phone or computer and you can see graphs of how you are doing. If you have it synced with an iPhone or Android you can also see who's calling you. It's also acts as a watch and alarm as well.


Thank you. I have the Fitbit charge and also love it. Managed 450,000 steps in June :)
 
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Pinkorchid

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Hi welcome
I think you really need to talk to your doctors about your diet. Many here do the low carb high fat diet...and it works for them but we are not medical experts so can't say if that will be suitable for you as you have a heart condition so best to ask first before you change to much
 
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koprano

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Thank you Pink... I don't for one minute think the health prof. Will recommend the low carb option, given they don't seem to like it for anyone, let alone who already had an M. I.

I think for now I will look at a regular low fat calorie controlled diet.. I don't eat cheese eggs or regular milk and cream.. I think my efforts need to go into cooking rather than processed dinners, lots more fruit and veg. But try and cut down on bread ..

The low carb high fat just does not seem the right way for me....
 
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DeejayR

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I see you feel caught between a rock and a hard place. Tough one, but not unknown to quite a few here. Let us know how you get on with your chosen regime.
 

britishpub

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If you can't go totally Low Carb, I would at the very least cut down on the pointless Carbs that most people eat.

Rice, potatoes, pasta and a lot of the bread people eat is not necessary, and once you get used to not having them it becomes quite easy.

The first few weeks will be hard as you will crave carbs, but after a while you will not notice you are not eating them anymore.
 
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Atalay

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If you can't go totally Low Carb, I would at the very least cut down on the pointless Carbs that most people eat.

Rice, potatoes, pasta and a lot of the bread people eat is not necessary, and once you get used to not having them it becomes quite easy.

The first few weeks will be hard as you will crave carbs, but after a while you will not notice you are not eating them anymore.
I second to that forgetting carbs after a while! I can not think of me eating a hamburger within a bun. No potatoes in my chicken dish, also.

It takes a few weeks to go with high fat and protein diet, but very efficiant on keeping bg low. You get a little carb from almost every veggies anyway. If craved, I rarely eat little musli for breakfast, thats all.

Also, you lose weight, at least a lot off from the belly fat! I lost 3,5" from my belly fat in 3 weeks! Weirdly (not), did not lose weight because of my workout program; 3 days weightlifting, 3 days cardio only. I feel gooood!
 

lovinglife

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I have about 90g carbs a day, I don't eat butter, cream, much cheese, I get most of my fat from eating a few nuts a day, avocado, cold olive oil and nut oil on salads and veg. I don't eat a massive amount of fat but I don't eat low fat either.
 
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Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Certainly keep the carbs down and have proteins when you want. The fat issue is difficult for some of us as we believe that fat is not the cause of high cholesterol and hence probbaly doesn't influence heart conditions BUT many in the medical profession will tell you to avoid fat and it is not up to us to disagree with your medical people. So, you will need to discuss your diet with the GP etc but the main thing to challenge if necessary is any advice to have too many carbs.
 
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Swan13

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Hi and welcome. Not sure if this will help but I was diagnosed as type 2 with a reading of 66 a month ago. I was prescribed metformin and statins initially. But then I was referred to a Diabetic nurse at our local GP practice and she was excellent! She suggested trying to cut my BS levels through life style changes first ( my diet was not too good and my BMI high) rather than go straight into medication. I also though have a genetic heart condition ( bicuspid aortic valve which as caused Aortic stenosis). I therefore haven't been too keen to go down the LCHF route as having lots of fat goes against the advice given by previous GPs / Cardiologists. However I have cut out over the last month all sugar products (cakes , biscuits, pies etc) and adopted a 50-50 approach re carbs - ie I've significantly cut down on them changing all whites to Browns and set myself a daily target that matches a "moderate" carb intake. I have also increased the number of steps I do s day , using Fibit tracker to 11,000. Doing this over the last month I've lost a stone. The Diabetic nurse also gave me a BS monitor and strips as she advised home testing was useful (she really was good judging by other comments on this forum) and I'm attending a Diabetic education course tomorrow arranged by her only one week after seeing her. It's very early days for me and time will tell if this approach works but having a heart condition meant I wanted to give "moderate carb / moderate fat" approach a go first before going on medication.
 
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koprano

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Well its been a very weird week

I am now starting to get used to the idea, as well as healthy eating.

I have not eaten any cakes biscuits etc, but I did have a pint on Friday. My usual beer is 5 - 10 pints in a week

I also have the fitbit and always do my 10 - 15,000 steps

I know I have lost 3 or 4 kilos this last week. I don't have accurate scales but not so sure but I weighted myself in the chemist on Friday and it was 3 kg lighter. Im still 89kg so plenty to go

Saturday I felt really unwell, I have started to have hot flushes and sweating, I was out of breath walking to the station, on way to London. After 2 hours in London I felt really uncomfortable and went home. I just had no energy whatsoever.

I put this down to body craving sugars as my diets has likely changed from Hi sugar 3000+ calories a day to 1700 ish per day

But Monday morning, I sitting at work and sweat is pouring down my back. Any ideas why this might be.
 

Clivethedrive

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Well its been a very weird week

I am now starting to get used to the idea, as well as healthy eating.

I have not eaten any cakes biscuits etc, but I did have a pint on Friday. My usual beer is 5 - 10 pints in a week

I also have the fitbit and always do my 10 - 15,000 steps

I know I have lost 3 or 4 kilos this last week. I don't have accurate scales but not so sure but I weighted myself in the chemist on Friday and it was 3 kg lighter. Im still 89kg so plenty to go

Saturday I felt really unwell, I have started to have hot flushes and sweating, I was out of breath walking to the station, on way to London. After 2 hours in London I felt really uncomfortable and went home. I just had no energy whatsoever.

I put this down to body craving sugars as my diets has likely changed from Hi sugar 3000+ calories a day to 1700 ish per day

But Monday morning, I sitting at work and sweat is pouring down my back. Any ideas why this might be.
Hello koprano,you might like to up you good fats my ratio is 10% carbs, 20% protein and 70% good fats, have a look at the " what have you eaten today" on this forum for inspiration, the increase in good fats will leave you feeling fuller and increase your energy levels, i'll tag @daisy1 for the info given to new posters, keep posting and get back to us with any q's
 
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Thank you Pink... I don't for one minute think the health prof. Will recommend the low carb option, given they don't seem to like it for anyone, let alone who already had an M. I.

I think for now I will look at a regular low fat calorie controlled diet.. I don't eat cheese eggs or regular milk and cream.. I think my efforts need to go into cooking rather than processed dinners, lots more fruit and veg. But try and cut down on bread ..

The low carb high fat just does not seem the right way for me....
I was diagnosed type 2 with an HbA1c of 67. I dropped it to 35 in 4 months by eating low carb and enough fat to give me my calories.
I am now called cured by the NHS.