Hi I'm Jim, diagnosed Type 2 a month ago

jimlpool

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Hi I'm Jim from Liverpool. Was told I was type 2 diabetic month ago. Over the last couple of years had 2 full hip replacements. Sitting indoors recovering eating I don't know how many cream cakes helped me bang the weight on! Been difficult to reduce weight! Being told I was diabetic knocked me for sixes!Was put on metformin tablets.

Come to terms with the situation. changed my diet totally giving up chocolate, sweets, cake and biscuits.

trying to eat healthily. doing lots of walking. so trying to help myself!

See where all this leads me.
 
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daddys1

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Hi @jimlpool & welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look around the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

Don't panic as it will take a while for you to get your head around all this but it appears that you have to some degree started to control, your diabetes

You need to cut out as many carbs as possible, lots on here follow a Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet which help
to reduce the sigars levels. Many here also test to ensure that we can spot the foods which affect us.

The main carbs to reduce are Bread. Pasta, Rice, Cereals including oats and lots of fruits, berries seems to be the best.

Neil
 
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SueB743

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Hi and welcome to the forum. Have a good read of the excellent information from
daisy and ask as many questions you like.
 
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jimlpool

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Hi @jimlpool & welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look around the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

Don't panic as it will take a while for you to get your head around all this but it appears that you have to some degree started to control, your diabetes

You need to cut out as many carbs as possible, lots on here follow a Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet which help
to reduce the sigars levels. Many here also test to ensure that we can spot the foods which affect us.

The main carbs to reduce are Bread. Pasta, Rice, Cereals including oats and lots of fruits, berries seems to be the best.

Neil

Thanks Neil. you've done well. you must be a very disciplined person!

I LOVE those carbs. gone onto granary bread, which I find tasty! potatoes I eat, bit rice, bit pasta. I like corn flakes and do eat porridge made from oats with water and added milk. have been eating strawberries. know I cant eat oranges, tangerines or grapes but was told by family friend I could eat clementines. all confusing. thought oats was ok to eat? I will get the hang of food I guess, I have to!

got to have another full blood count test in a couple of weeks so I will see what ive achieved!

appreciate your help.
regards
Jim
 

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Hi jimipool and welcome. Shiny new hips are good eh? I've only needed one so far and it's so great to be pain-free.
Can't say recovery was an excuse for me to eat badly, though.
I gave up puddings, cakes, sweets & biscuits very strictly for a year and it didn't help my blood sugar levels because I was still eating off the dratted "Healthy Plate" with bread, pasta, rice and spuds.
When I gave those up too my BS levels started to improve and today I feel A1.
Hope you make loads of progress with the forum.
 
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jimlpool

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Hi jimipool and welcome. Shiny new hips are good eh? I've only needed one so far and it's so great to be pain-free.
Can't say recovery was an excuse for me to eat badly, though.
I gave up puddings, cakes, sweets & biscuits very strictly for a year and it didn't help my blood sugar levels because I was still eating off the dratted "Healthy Plate" with bread, pasta, rice and spuds.
When I gave those up too my BS levels started to improve and today I feel A1.
Hope you make loads of progress with the forum.
Hi
Thanks for the message
One hip, the first is superb but the 2nd not as good but all that awful pain gone! phew!
think I was weak willed eating too much. im paying the penalty now tho,
so you didn't eat any bread, pasta, rice or pots at all? giving up bread for me will be a killer, though ive given up chocolate this past month and I didn't think id ever do that!
Hoping the forum will help me achieve my goals. life changing this.
cheers
Jim
 

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@jimlpool

Hello Jim and welcome to the forum :)

As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members which will give you advice about carbs in addition to that given to you already by other members. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

eddie1968

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Welcome Jim. Hope the hips are better now.
 

ButtterflyLady

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Welcome, Jim. Hope you find the forum helpful. One of the usual blood tests the doctors and nurses order for us is HbA1c, and it looks at how your blood glucose levels have been fluctuating over the last 2 months. Often when first diagnosed a person will have this test done every 3 months, dropping down to 6 monthly once it has dropped to a healthy level. So don't be surprised if the result is not much better than the last one if they are too close together. Eventually you will get there. Keep up the good work!
 

Mary Morton

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Hi @jimlpool & welcome to the forum, you have certainly come to the right place for lots of help and information plus a lot of support.

I will tag @daisy1 , she will be along with a long list of very helpful information we give to all new members.

Please look around the forum and don't be afraid to ask what ever questions you need to.

Don't panic as it will take a while for you to get your head around all this but it appears that you have to some degree started to control, your diabetes

You need to cut out as many carbs as possible, lots on here follow a Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet which help
to reduce the sigars levels. Many here also test to ensure that we can spot the foods which affect us.

The main carbs to reduce are Bread. Pasta, Rice, Cereals including oats and lots of fruits, berries seems to be the best.

Neil
 

Mary Morton

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Hi Jim. I'm new to the forum too. But before I waded in with introducing myself in the usual way I just had to reply to your thread. I was diagnosed type 2 five years ago. I shall never forget how it felt. I've also had my hip replaced before diagnosis and revised since. But the choice of foods has been for me the best thing that happened to me. Learning about how balancing healthy eating and applying it till it becomes a way of life has been important and productive. I'm still diet controlled and enjoying tasty food. Hope this helps and you get on OK.
 

jimlpool

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@jimlpool

Hello Jim and welcome to the forum :)

As mentioned above, here is the information we give to new members which will give you advice about carbs in addition to that given to you already by other members. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Hi Daisy
Thanks for the message.

That is really helpful. Great guidance. appreciated.

Jim
 
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Welcome, Jim. Hope you find the forum helpful. One of the usual blood tests the doctors and nurses order for us is HbA1c, and it looks at how your blood glucose levels have been fluctuating over the last 2 months. Often when first diagnosed a person will have this test done every 3 months, dropping down to 6 monthly once it has dropped to a healthy level. So don't be surprised if the result is not much better than the last one if they are too close together. Eventually you will get there. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the message. I have a HbA1c blood test next month. 8 weeks since my previous. It's so difficult to change eating habits but I'm slowly getting there. I love bread. white bread. but I'm now on granary bread and surprisingly enjoying. thanks for the encouragement.

Jim
 

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Hi Jim. I'm new to the forum too. But before I waded in with introducing myself in the usual way I just had to reply to your thread. I was diagnosed type 2 five years ago. I shall never forget how it felt. I've also had my hip replaced before diagnosis and revised since. But the choice of foods has been for me the best thing that happened to me. Learning about how balancing healthy eating and applying it till it becomes a way of life has been important and productive. I'm still diet controlled and enjoying tasty food. Hope this helps and you get on OK.

Thanks for the message Mary. I knew I wouldn't be alone with my thoughts. It is a bit of a shock to be told. I realise I've put myself into this situation and now diet is the key to success. Good luck with your goals too.
Jim
 

jimlpool

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Welcome Jim. Hope the hips are better now.

Hi Eddie
I'm thrilled with my new hips. The pain becomes unbearable before you have them replaced. The first one I had done is perfect but the second just doesn't feel right. first is titanium and the second plastic. I can walk so that's the main thing. Now I have to focus on this diabetes problem. thanks for the message.
Jim
 

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Thanks Neil. you've done well. you must be a very disciplined person!

I LOVE those carbs. gone onto granary bread, which I find tasty! potatoes I eat, bit rice, bit pasta. I like corn flakes and do eat porridge made from oats with water and added milk. have been eating strawberries. know I cant eat oranges, tangerines or grapes but was told by family friend I could eat clementines. all confusing. thought oats was ok to eat? I will get the hang of food I guess, I have to!

got to have another full blood count test in a couple of weeks so I will see what ive achieved!

appreciate your help.
regards
Jim

Hi Jim, welcome :)

As Neil says you ought to reduce your carbs as much as possible, that would include potatoes, cornflakes and virtually all cereals I'm afraid. Granary bread and oats affect different diabetics to varying degrees, so your best bet would be to get yourself a blood glucose meter (SD Codefree are popular and cheapest for strips) and see how different foods affect you. That's the way to get your BG levels under control and keep them there.
 
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DeejayR

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Hi
so you didn't eat any bread, pasta, rice or pots at all?
Jim
You will find people on here who can eat small amounts of carbs in those categories, so you'll have to experiment with a meter.
I make a sort of cake out of ground almonds and flax with salt, butter and oil and flavoured with herbs as a bread substitute.
However there is a low-carb high-protein bread roll at Lidl.. Also some people can eat small amounts of supermarket soya and linseed bread. I haven't tried any.
I'm trying courgette sliced thin and fried with other stuff instead of pasta. Some people say they can get away with cooking pasta, freezing it and reheating it, but I can't.
You may have heard that spiced-up shredded cauliflower is getting fashionable as a rice substitute.
I confess :sorry: I will eat up to 3 small potatoes with a meal with fat like butter, cheese or full-fat meat.
All good fun!
 
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