Recently Diagnosed Type 2

AussieSmegg

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Morons,
I was recently diagnosed with type 2 with blood glucose off the scale up to 29 mmol/L after meals and an average fasting level of over 15 mmol/L. I knew something was wrong when my work colleagues told me I was falling asleep at my desk. The funny thing was that I had no idea I was and thought they were pulling my leg. I also started to get extremely blurry vision.
Went to the doc and he tested bloods and I returned a level of 24.9 mmol/l.
I was started on metformin 500mg which was increased to 1000, 2000 and then 3000mg with little effect on my blood glucose. I have seen an endocrinologist who put me straight onto metformin plus basal insulin. He is gradually increasing my dose of insulin and it looks like my numbers are falling slightly although I have a long way to go. Very hard to get my head around the whole thing but the diagnosis explains a lot of things.
 

urbanracer

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Hi and welcome to the forums, take a good look around and ask a lot of questions if you're having problems. There's usually somebody about who can help.
 
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Welcome to the club. I won't get Daisy to send you the low carbing stuff since when you are trying to sort out your insulin dosage it's bad time to start changing your eating habits too much. Good luck.
 

ButtterflyLady

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I dunno Squire, I don't think having @daisy1 's info is necessarily a bad thing. There is more in there than just low-carbing. What do you think, Daisy?

Also, I thought the max dose of Metformin was 2g a day, but I could be wrong on that. It might be that that is the level at which any more won't make any difference?
 
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4ratbags

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Hi and welcome to the forum, my numbers were just slightly higher than yours on diagnosis so I know how you must be feeling. It takes time for your BS to start going down as it takes your body time to adjust to the medication ect. Just remember we are here for you, to answer any questions you may have or to just offer support.
 

AussieSmegg

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Morons,
Than you all for your replies. We have nothing like this forum in Australia. On the metformin dosage, Aus guidelines allow up to 3g or 3000 mg per day. Mind you it made me nauseous and gave me the worst diarreah and stomach problems. Now I have started insulin, they have dropped the dose back to 2000mg which is a little more bearable.
On diet, started low carb diet a month or so ago with a slight improvement in BG. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.

Hbac1 9.0 - June 2015
 

daisy1

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@AussieSmegg

Here is the information we give to new members. Glad to see you are already having beneficial effects from the low carb way of eating. Lots of useful information from members here and more to come so ask as many questions as you like.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.