HB1AC increased from 5.1% to 5.54% in one year

knockknock123

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Hi all,

I am a 23 year old male.
A routine blood checkup a year ago gave 5.1% hb1ac. A blood checkup a week ago gave 5.54% hb1ac. The doctor says I am prediabetic. But online forums say that prediabetic is above 5.7%. What do you people think? Should I treat myself as a diabetic?
 

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I thought 5.4 was normal and that your understanding was correct. However your reading has increased, in your shoes I would ensure I wasn't overweight, cut out sugary drinks including fruit juice. I would get a blood glucose Meter to monitor my blood glucose after eating.
 
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Your HbA1c is increasing, but you are not yet prediabetic.

Now is the time to lose weight if you need to. Your BMI should be between 20 and 25. You can calculate it here:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/bmi.html

If you are overweight, even a 5-10% weight loss would be likely to benefit your health considerably.

If you need to lose weight and don't make changes, you may be prediabetic within 6-12 months, and diabetic within say 12 months of that. These are guesses based on how I became diabetic, so they are just speculation really. The point is, you have a chance to avoid diabetes - many people have no idea until it's too late. I encourage you to take the opportunity to stop your HbA1c increasing further. Good luck.

HbA1c targets
Targets for HbA1c are as follows:

  • For people without diabetes, the range is 20-41 mmol/mol
    (4-5.9%)
  • For people with diabetes, an HbA1c level of 48 mmol/mol
    (6.5%)
    is considered good control, although some people may prefer their numbers to be closer to that of non-diabetics
  • For people at greater risk of hypoglycemia (lower than normal blood sugar), a target HbA1c of 59 mmol/mol (7.5%) to reduce the risk of hypos
source: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html
 
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knockknock123

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Your HbA1c is increasing, but you are not yet prediabetic.

Now is the time to lose weight if you need to. Your BMI should be between 20 and 25. You can calculate it here:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/bmi.html

If you are overweight, even a 5-10% weight loss would be likely to benefit your health considerably.

If you need to lose weight and don't make changes, you may be prediabetic within 6-12 months, and diabetic within say 12 months of that. These are guesses based on how I became diabetic, so they are just speculation really. The point is, you have a chance to avoid diabetes - many people have no idea until it's too late. I encourage you to take the opportunity to stop your HbA1c increasing further. Good luck.

HbA1c targets
Targets for HbA1c are as follows:

  • For people without diabetes, the range is 20-41 mmol/mol
    (4-5.9%)
  • For people with diabetes, an HbA1c level of 48 mmol/mol
    (6.5%)
    is considered good control, although some people may prefer their numbers to be closer to that of non-diabetics
  • For people at greater risk of hypoglycemia (lower than normal blood sugar), a target HbA1c of 59 mmol/mol (7.5%) to reduce the risk of hypos
source: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html

Thorough and informative. Thanks! I did not know it could progress to diabetes within a span of 2 years! My BMI currently is 26.7. Not too overweight but I guess I have to start cutting down. I noticed that a small area on both of my inner thighs has darkened and thickened a bit. Can that happen even if I am pre-prediabetic? I admit that my diet and lifestyle were pretty bad in the last six months but how am I almost prediabetic at such a young age? I mean, no one in my family has diabetes...
 

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Thorough and informative. Thanks! I did not know it could progress to diabetes within a span of 2 years! My BMI currently is 26.7. Not too overweight but I guess I have to start cutting down. I noticed that a small area on both of my inner thighs has darkened and thickened a bit. Can that happen even if I am pre-prediabetic? I admit that my diet and lifestyle were pretty bad in the last six months but how am I almost prediabetic at such a young age? I mean, no one in my family has diabetes...
The time taken to progress would depend on a number of things and could take less or more time than 2 years. I'm confident you will be able to stop that happening though.

You're right, you're not very overweight at all. Small changes to what you eat are probably all that is needed. I will tag @daisy1 who has some great newcomers info she can post.

Darkened and thickened skin may be a condition called Acanthosis Nigricans and is seen in some people with diabetes. It would be best to get your doctor to look at it, they will be able to diagnose it one way or another.

I don't think 6 months would be long enough for bad diet to lead to diabetes. I am starting to wonder if you are showing early signs of a type of diabetes that is not as common as type 1 or type 2. Because yes, you are are young and you are not particularly overweight, and you have these areas of darkened, thickened skin, but your HbA1c is not even prediabetic.

Hopefully others with more experience than me will come in and comment on your situation. There are people who have these rarer types of diabetes who may recognise things better than I can. I'd rather not say too much about a subject I don't know much about, as I would hate to put you wrong and cause unnecessary worry.
 
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There are many variables that can impact results and resulting margins of error.

http://www.ngsp.org/factors.asp

I wouldn't be too concerned about an increase so small.
Good point. Maybe the doctor should do a repeat test in a few weeks, or do a fasting glucose test then?

Another option is to try and put it out of your mind and see what it is like in 3 or 6 months. For example, my first diabetic eye test showed a problem, and I worried about it for the whole 6 months until the second test, which showed everything was fine. The optometrist said the first result was probably "artefact", which means a sort of false positive, a result that looked like a problem, but wasn't.
 

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@knockknock123

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

As you are pre-diabetic, you could help reverse/delay full diabetes by paying particular attention to your diet especially by reducing carbohydrates. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope this will help you. As you can see there are plenty of members who can give you good advice. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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