Newbie question on tropical fruits

Kamili

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Hi. First thank you for accepting me onto the forum. From the Facebook page I have gained quite a lot of help. My name is Diane and I was diagnosed last September with type 2. It was so devastating to me I wanted to just curl up and die. After suffering a heart attack in 2009 and having a battle with trigeminal neuralgia for over 25 years and putting up with IBS on occasions plus tinnitus this news was just another nail in my coffin. I'm 67. However I have now sort of picked myself up and decided I have spent too long putting my head in the sand and feeling sorry for myself. So today I need some information. I have always had a sweet tooth but am trying to cut down on sugar and using sweeteners instead. I am also learning about carbohydrates etc. I even went and bought a meter to test my glucose levels. It's early days but I am learning. My home is in Kenya, my husband an I retired here from England over 8 years ago, we live by the sea the India ocean just a few minutes walk away. Fish from the fisherman delivered to our door. Sunshine all year round. My question is about the tropical fruits that are available here. Mangoes, pawpaw, pineapple, passion fruit. Berries not so many. What fruits are suitable that can safely be eaten which have the least sugar content. We can also get beautiful dates from Dubai. Please can you help.

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Diane
 

SunnyExpat

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Test the effects of the fruit with your meter. I'm good with fruits, others aren't.
I find the climate affects me as well, so again, you may be completely different from the effect it has in the rainy UK.
 

Kamili

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Test the effects of the fruit with your meter. I'm good with fruits, others aren't.
I find the climate affects me as well, so again, you may be completely different from the effect it has in the rainy UK.
Thanks that's very useful information.
 

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Hi and welcome,

It's very difficult to answer your question about fruit, if not impossible. All I can say is use your meter to tell you which fruits, and in what portions, you can manage. One tip though is to eat the fruit as part of a meal, preferably as a dessert or starter with cream. The other food in your meal, if it is low in carbs, plus the fat from the cream, will help minimise the spike. Fruit can be very difficult for diabetics, as you have learned. Personally, I have just discovered (after 18 months on this game) that if I eat fruit at breakfast with my full fat yogurt, even just 2 strawberries or 4 raspberries, my levels shoot up, but the same combination eaten at lunch time or evening meal does nothing to my levels. My insulin resistance diminishes as the day progresses. It may not be the same for everyone.

Good luck and keep asking questions.
 
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Kamili

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Thanks for information. I have just had a scare after taking meter reading . 3.4 thankfully had glucose tablets and ate three. Strange I didn't feel ill at all. Could be I'm not eating enough carbs so I will test again.
 

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I had a few readings of 3.7 which worried me but I asked on the forum and was told it was absolutely fine & not to worry so I haven't & have been fine. As for fruit, I have read somewhere that tropical fruits are the worst, ' if a fruit grows in a hot country avoid it' but as Blue Tit said above the only way to really know if a fruit or food is spiking you is to test and test again two hrs later. The Nice guideline is to keep below 8.5 Along with berries I can only tolerate an apple per day, so test test test
 

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I had a few readings of 3.7 which worried me but I asked on the forum and was told it was absolutely fine & not to worry so I haven't & have been fine. As for fruit, I have read somewhere that tropical fruits are the worst, ' if a fruit grows in a hot country avoid it' but as Blue Tit said above the only way to really know if a fruit or food is spiking you is to test and test again two hrs later. The Nice guideline is to keep below 8.5 Along with berries I can only tolerate an apple per day, so test test test

Thanks so much. I had a feeling that fruits here would be a problem but I will carry out the tests as suggested.
After retesting after my scare managed to stabilize reading at 6.8. Just need to get the balance right. This is a big learning curve for me.
 

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It can take time to get the balance right but you have a meter so at least you can test to determine what foods you can tolerate. It took me 6 months to get my diet sorted but it was worth it.
 

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Hi Kamili and welcome to the forum. You may find @daisy1 's info for newly diagnosed people helpful so I am tagging her in.

Sounds like you are doing great, keep up the good work!
 
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Kamili

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It can take time to get the balance right but you have a meter so at least you can test to determine what foods you can tolerate. It took me 6 months to get my diet sorted but it was worth it.[


I congratulate you on getting it right. Just hope I can be as successful. I am finding it difficult to get my head round all the different measures for the condition ie blood glocuse readings and blood etc etc. Also although recently I was prescribed Metformin I have yet to take it. I know that is probably the wrong thing to not do but I keep reading unflattering things about it and another pills regimen and side effects to contend with seems unbearable. So far my readings have been lowest 3.4 highest 8.6 with variations in between. I do appreciate everyone's help.
 

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@Kamili

Hello Diane and welcome to the forum :) As you have already seen, you will get lots of good advice here on the forum so ask as many questions as you like and someone will help. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.