Do I have diabetes? PLEASE HELP

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I'm a 13 year old girl and about 36 hours ago, I got off a 15 hour international flight. 24 hours prior to that I was on a 6 hour interstate flight. I had no symptoms until I got on the 6 hour flight, which was at about 7 o'clock at night local time. I urinated twice during the flight, however, these 2 times were within an hour of each other. It's also worth mentioning that I did have a cup of tea before using the bathroom the second time and the caffeine in tea acts as a diuretic. The next day after arriving at my destination, I had virtually no symptoms apart from slight pain in the urethra, although no discomfort with urination. Symptoms began at about 3 o'clock in the afternoon with urinal frequency and urgency. In the 8 hours before my 11 o'clock pm flight, I urinated 8 times. In this time I did drink a small cup of tea and a large amount of water. The frequency increased as time went on and I began to feel like my bladder was still full even after having just been to the bathroom. During the 15 hour flight, I had a dry mouth, felt nauseous at times and urinated upwards of 20 times. I wasn't particularly thirsty but could barely swallow because my mouth was so dry, however this and the nausea subsided after a few hours. Apart from being a very unpleasant experience and having gone over 36 hours with no sleep, I did feel quite good. About halfway through the flight I was needing the toilet every 30 minutes, however, it wasn't as if I couldn't control my bladder or it was really urgent, I just felt the constant need to go. Sometimes a lot came out and other times barely any and despite the urgency to go, it took about 30 seconds for urine to actually start flowing. It was about 8 hours into the flight that I began to worry. Although my symptoms hadn't changed, my first thought of the cause of my problem was diabetic ketoacidosis. I am not at all an expert in the area of diabetes and with no wifi on the aeroplane, I had no way to find out if my symptoms were consistent with that of diabetes type 1, so I could only go off of what I knew. My seemingly nocturnal urinal frequency, dry mouth and nausea were all consistent with diabetes, so I was really beginning to worry. I told my mum but she said it was probably a urinary tract infection and that she wasn't too worried. When we finally landed, my symptoms seemed to have subsided, however, it was morning so this was consistent with nocturnal urinal frequency and urgency. When we got home, it was a public holiday so there were no doctors available. We were able to call a GP to the house. The doctor did a urine sample with a dipstick which showed positive for a UTI, however, he said that the test is only 30% accurate. I'm not sure if it is similar to a pregnancy test in that it is generally accurate when results come back positive but is less reliable when the results are negative. The doctor prescribed me antibiotics but said that if my symptoms don't subside, I should look into diabetes. He also recommended that I have my blood sugar checked at the local pharmacy. I am keen to do this however, I know that it doesn't guarantee accuracy as my slim build means that my blood sugar slides all over the place. I slept for about 16 hours and was extremely jet lagged, and I woke up with no symptoms. It is now 10pm and I'm starting to feel urinary frequency again. This is very worrying to me as I have heard many stories of people being diagnosed with diabetes after urinal urgency. I have had very slight discomfort with urination, which is consistent with a UTI, however, I wouldn't say its enough to suggest that it is definitely without a doubt a UTI, as I have had a few before and the pain was quite significant and severe. I am very very very worried that I have diabetes, however, I have quite a limited understanding of it and I'm not sure if diabetic ketoacidosis comes at a later stage of diagnosis, if I am at serious medical risk or how fast I need to act. Please please PLEASE help as I'm extremely anxious.
Thank you very much for your help and taking the time to read.
Lily xx
 

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Get it checked please. We cannot diagnose. That could be anything. Lesson #1 .... do NOT panic. We are here for you
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Get it checked please. We cannot diagnose. That could be anything. Lesson #1 .... do NOT panic. We are here for you
Mike :)

Thank you very much for your response. As it is still a public holiday there are no doctors clinics open and the home visit doctors are really just a last resort as they often lack resources. Could I get your advice on how potentially urgent this could be? Do I need to act in the next 24 hours (symptoms started about 4 days ago but have gotten better, which suggests a UTI as I'm on antibiotics)? Being a hypochondriac, I just keep worrying that I'm going to go into a coma at any moment, which I know is unrealistic and improbable but even that knowledge won't shut my brain off.
 
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Please stop panicking, it sounds very much like a UTI but as @Mike D says we can not diagnose! Take the antibiotics as prescribed, drink lots if water to flush out your system and when the holidays are over go and get your bloods checked for diabetes. If the doctor thought it was urgent he would have sent you to the hospital. For now be kind to yourself, all this worrying will only make you feel worse! Of course I have to add, if you do get worse then you should call the doctor back, but for now give the antibiotics chance to work. Take care Sue xxxx
 
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Please stop panicking, it sounds very much like a UTI but as @Mike D says we can not diagnose! Take the antibiotics as prescribed, drink lots if water to flush out your system and when the holidays are over go and get your bloods checked for diabetes. If the doctor thought it was urgent he would have sent you to the hospital. For now be kind to yourself, all this worrying will only make you feel worse! Of course I have to add, if you do get worse then you should call the doctor back, but for now give the antibiotics chance to work. Take care Sue xxxx
I agree with this. Your bladder symptoms have improved on the antibiotics, so that means a UTI is the most likely diagnosis at this time. Sometimes we can have a UTI without severe pain. Are you on vacation at the moment, and which country are you in?
 
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Please stop panicking, it sounds very much like a UTI but as @Mike D says we can not diagnose! Take the antibiotics as prescribed, drink lots if water to flush out your system and when the holidays are over go and get your bloods checked for diabetes. If the doctor thought it was urgent he would have sent you to the hospital. For now be kind to yourself, all this worrying will only make you feel worse! Of course I have to add, if you do get worse then you should call the doctor back, but for now give the antibiotics chance to work. Take care Sue xxxx

Thank you for the advice, I'll wait it out a little bit and then see how it goes :)
 
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I agree with this. Your bladder symptoms have improved on the antibiotics, so that means a UTI is the most likely diagnosis at this time. Sometimes we can have a UTI without severe pain. Are you on vacation at the moment, and which country are you in?

I just came back from a vacation in the U.S and I'm back in Australia now. Thank you for the advice :)
 
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I just came back from a vacation in the U.S and I'm back in Australia now. Thank you for the advice :)
That's good, as you will be able to access health care, which is not always the case for people living in the US and elsewhere. I love visiting the US - hope you had a good vacation :)

You might want to make an appointment to see your doctor for a check up and a blood test so you know there is nothing to worry about. I've had a lot of UTIs over the years so I might be able to give you some tips on reducing the chances of getting them. If you get them often, you should ask your doctor to refer you to a specialist for further tests.

The internet is a great resource for learning about health issues but sometimes the information can cause unnecessary worry. It's a good idea to speak to a health professional so you get the most relevant and accurate information. In Australia there is a free phone line you can call and speak to a registered nurse, 24/7:
http://www.healthdirect.gov.au/

And you can also phone or visit your local pharmacy to talk to the pharmacist about symptoms, and medicines you can buy without a prescription.

Both of these people are good at letting you know whether you need to see a doctor too.

Good luck.
 
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You need to confide your worries to your mum. At 13 years of age you should not be fretting so, without support. Your mum said she wasn't too worried? Perhaps another consultation with doctor and your mum knowing how concerned you are, soon.
Hope you soon feel better and have your concerns addressed by the doctor.
 
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That's good, as you will be able to access health care, which is not always the case for people living in the US and elsewhere. I love visiting the US - hope you had a good vacation :)

You might want to make an appointment to see your doctor for a check up and a blood test so you know there is nothing to worry about. I've had a lot of UTIs over the years so I might be able to give you some tips on reducing the chances of getting them. If you get them often, you should ask your doctor to refer you to a specialist for further tests.

The internet is a great resource for learning about health issues but sometimes the information can cause unnecessary worry. It's a good idea to speak to a health professional so you get the most relevant and accurate information. In Australia there is a free phone line you can call and speak to a registered nurse, 24/7:
http://www.healthdirect.gov.au/

And you can also phone or visit your local pharmacy to talk to the pharmacist about symptoms, and medicines you can buy without a prescription.

Both of these people are good at letting you know whether you need to see a doctor too.

Good luck.

Thank you so much for all of this very helpful information. I'm going to try not to worry too much and I'll ask my mum to make an appointment with my GP

Lily
 
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You need to confide your worries to your mum. At 13 years of age you should not be fretting so, without support. Your mum said she wasn't too worried? Perhaps another consultation with doctor and your mum knowing how concerned you are, soon.
Hope you soon feel better and have your concerns addressed by the doctor.

Thank you for the advice!
I have let my mum know about my concerns and she isn't ignoring my symptoms, but as I tend to take my hypochondriasis to the extreme (up until 4 am worrying about meningococcal because I had a red mark on my foot, legitimately worried about a heart attack because I had some pain in my left arm, and the list goes on), she isn't too alarmed by it. She is going to book a doctor's appointment though.

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Thank you for the advice!
I have let my mum know about my concerns and she isn't ignoring my symptoms, but as I tend to take my hypochondriasis to the extreme (up until 4 am worrying about meningococcal because I had a red mark on my foot, legitimately worried about a heart attack because I had some pain in my left arm, and the list goes on), she isn't too alarmed by it. She is going to book a doctor's appointment though.

Lily
I was a bit like you when I was a teenager, often worrying about symptoms and thinking I could have an illness that no one was noticing. Eventually I found out that I did have certain illnesses that had been missed for too long, while other symptoms never amounted to anything. It's always hard to know which category something will fall into. So I think a solution is to get checked out by a doctor but at the same time to learn some coping strategies to reduce the anxiety.

We all have anxieties from time to time but for some of us we have them so much that we have an anxiety disorder. This can be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, and also by living through stressful events. Children and teenagers can get anxiety disorders as well as adults. Your doctor or school counsellor may be able to help by organising some sessions with a counsellor, where you can learn ways to manage anxiety. There are also websites with information about it.

We need a certain level of anxiety so that if we are danger we can do what is needed. For example, if you were camping in the forest and a scary animal approached you, your body would get a rush of adrenalin so that you were ready to "fight" or "flight" (run away). If we don't do something physical, then the adrenalin sticks around and is not good for the body. So, regular exercise can help process adrenalin and other "stress hormones".

The worries you have about your health suggests that you have more anxiety than is normal or healthy, so I encourage you to ask for help. Good luck.
 

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I was a bit like you when I was a teenager, often worrying about symptoms and thinking I could have an illness that no one was noticing. Eventually I found out that I did have certain illnesses that had been missed for too long, while other symptoms never amounted to anything. It's always hard to know which category something will fall into. So I think a solution is to get checked out by a doctor but at the same time to learn some coping strategies to reduce the anxiety.

We all have anxieties from time to time but for some of us we have them so much that we have an anxiety disorder. This can be caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, and also by living through stressful events. Children and teenagers can get anxiety disorders as well as adults. Your doctor or school counsellor may be able to help by organising some sessions with a counsellor, where you can learn ways to manage anxiety. There are also websites with information about it.

We need a certain level of anxiety so that if we are danger we can do what is needed. For example, if you were camping in the forest and a scary animal approached you, your body would get a rush of adrenalin so that you were ready to "fight" or "flight" (run away). If we don't do something physical, then the adrenalin sticks around and is not good for the body. So, regular exercise can help process adrenalin and other "stress hormones".

The worries you have about your health suggests that you have more anxiety than is normal or healthy, so I encourage you to ask for help. Good luck.

I have had very very severe anxiety since I was 9 years old and have even been hospitalised for it a few times, so I'm not stranger to dealing with it and finding ways to cope. The most difficult thing to deal with is the hypochondriasis, because no matter how many coping strategies I have, I'm never going to be able to completely shut out the worries without getting some reassurance from a doctor. I'm really trying to move past it because it's starting to affect my everyday life more than it used to (I'm constantly on my guard about having a medical emergency and not being able to get help, and I have a massive phobia of fainting which I worry about basically every time I leave the house). I've had some help in the past but haven't found it all that helpful. I've also had quite a complicated health journey (severe obstructive sleep apnea, peripheral neuropathy, multiple brain cysts and stomach ulcers) which I think has opened my eyes to just how much can go wrong in the body, even though all of these issues are being carefully monitored and I have been reassured that there's nothing to worry about at this point.
Thank you for the advice, it is very much appreciated,
Lily
 

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I have had very very severe anxiety since I was 9 years old and have even been hospitalised for it a few times, so I'm not stranger to dealing with it and finding ways to cope. The most difficult thing to deal with is the hypochondriasis, because no matter how many coping strategies I have, I'm never going to be able to completely shut out the worries without getting some reassurance from a doctor. I'm really trying to move past it because it's starting to affect my everyday life more than it used to (I'm constantly on my guard about having a medical emergency and not being able to get help, and I have a massive phobia of fainting which I worry about basically every time I leave the house). I've had some help in the past but haven't found it all that helpful. I've also had quite a complicated health journey (severe obstructive sleep apnea, peripheral neuropathy, multiple brain cysts and stomach ulcers) which I think has opened my eyes to just how much can go wrong in the body, even though all of these issues are being carefully monitored and I have been reassured that there's nothing to worry about at this point.
Thank you for the advice, it is very much appreciated,
Lily
I really feel for you, Lily. I am 42 and I also have severe OSA, and mild-moderate anxiety. I'm glad you have been diagnosed with hypochondriasis, as knowing what the problem is, is half the battle sometimes.

There is good research evidence that enough sessions with a well trained clinical psychologist can help treat anxiety disorders and hypochondriasis. You may not be able to control the symptoms 100% but I'm betting you can get better results and have a better quality of life if you get the right kind of help.

Medication can also be a big help, and while doctors need to be very careful with giving them to people under the age of 25, it's not impossible for someone your age to be on medication for anxiety. Your parents may be reluctant to agree to it, but I just wanted to let you know that technically it's not ruled out by your age... but it would need to be done very carefully, by a doctor with experience in working with children and teenagers.

In terms of diabetes, one good thing is that it's easy to rule out with a simple blood test. People can develop T1 diabetes at any age, and it is usually picked up when some pretty clear symptoms develop. It's rare for someone your age to get T2 and when it happens the person is usually quite overweight. It's T2 that is typically checked for when there aren't symptoms. So I think the chances of you having diabetes without really clear symptoms is very small. I realise this may not be enough to reassure you though.

I still worry about getting cancer or another serious condition that may become severe before it shows symptoms, and that scenario is more likely in a middle aged or older person than it is in a 13 year old. How I manage it is to see my doctor about symptoms of concern, and to accept her reassurance as much as I can. Probably my medication also helps me to have less anxiety about it.

I encourage you to keep talking about it with your mother and others close to you, and to keep trying to get professional help, because I believe there is hope for people with anxiety and phobias.
 

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I really feel for you, Lily. I am 42 and I also have severe OSA, and mild-moderate anxiety. I'm glad you have been diagnosed with hypochondriasis, as knowing what the problem is, is half the battle sometimes.

There is good research evidence that enough sessions with a well trained clinical psychologist can help treat anxiety disorders and hypochondriasis. You may not be able to control the symptoms 100% but I'm betting you can get better results and have a better quality of life if you get the right kind of help.

Medication can also be a big help, and while doctors need to be very careful with giving them to people under the age of 25, it's not impossible for someone your age to be on medication for anxiety. Your parents may be reluctant to agree to it, but I just wanted to let you know that technically it's not ruled out by your age... but it would need to be done very carefully, by a doctor with experience in working with children and teenagers.

In terms of diabetes, one good thing is that it's easy to rule out with a simple blood test. People can develop T1 diabetes at any age, and it is usually picked up when some pretty clear symptoms develop. It's rare for someone your age to get T2 and when it happens the person is usually quite overweight. It's T2 that is typically checked for when there aren't symptoms. So I think the chances of you having diabetes without really clear symptoms is very small. I realise this may not be enough to reassure you though.

I still worry about getting cancer or another serious condition that may become severe before it shows symptoms, and that scenario is more likely in a middle aged or older person than it is in a 13 year old. How I manage it is to see my doctor about symptoms of concern, and to accept her reassurance as much as I can. Probably my medication also helps me to have less anxiety about it.

I encourage you to keep talking about it with your mother and others close to you, and to keep trying to get professional help, because I believe there is hope for people with anxiety and phobias.

It really is comforting to see other people dealing with the same kind of issues as I am as it can be very isolating to constantly be worrying about EVERYTHING while everyone else my age is off having fun. I was put on beta-blockers when I was first diagnosed at age 9 but the medication made me feel worse as I already have a very low resting blood pressure (85/60). I'm not concerned about T2 as I am severely underweight due to my genetics. This forum has really reassured me that even if this does end up being diabetes, I'm going to be okay. Hopefully I will be able to reach a solid diagnosis soon.
Thank you for all of the support and advice that you've provided, it has been a great help
Lily xx
 
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