One week & 2 days in...

Janey1904

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Was diagnosed with Type 2 nine days ago with the 'helpful' comment from my GP " Go away & eat a Mediteraninan diet & you don't need to know what your blood glucose is doing." To say I was floundering at first is an understatement. A Mediteranian diet? Sounds ok until I thought... what am I actually going to eat? Thank goodness I found this forum, learnt so much more in just a couple of days reading and although my head is still spinning with it all, it seems more managable now.
 
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DeejayR

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Glad you're getting to grips with it. Anything particular we can help with?
 

Corrah

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There is a mine of brilliant information on here. Just diagnosed type 2 myself 9 days ago and have my first appointment with the diabetic clinic tomorrow. My hubby is type 1, so I have some knowledge, but I must say it has been very useful reading through everything here. :)
 

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Hi girls! @Janey1904 and @Corrah. Welcome to the forum where you will find lots of support and encouragement. @daisy1 will be along soon with great information to help you make sense of it all. Take care x
 
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Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Yes, you do need a meter so you can control and manage your condition rather than an arms-length NHS that you may see only every 6 months or so. Most of us would say a mediterranium diet is a good first step but can anyone really define it well. Most of us would say a low-carb diet with enough proteins, fats and veg to keep you feeling full is the best way forward and in many ways is similar.
 
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Corrah

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I am lucky in that hubby got an extra monitor so I have pinched it :). Will see how things go tomorrow at the clinic.
 

daisy1

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@Janey1904

Hello Janey and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask all the questions you want and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

tigerlily72

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You ask away :) I'm also a newly diagnosed Type 2 although I've been "lurking" :hilarious: on here for a while now.

Browse various forums and threads - there's lots to choose from including the Type 2 forum, low carb, ask a question etc. You'll soon hopefully find your way around the site. It's how I've learnt so much and educated myself on diabetes. And, I'm still learning.

I've only just found that there are several recipe books on here available for download!
 

Corrah

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Tried a recipe from the 365 download for dinner tonight. It was lovely :)
 

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Hi and welcome. Was your blood pressure checked, and do you remember what the result was?
 

Janey1904

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Hi everyone & thanks for the welcome & info. There is so much to learn but I'm so relieved to have found this forum, was panicking a bit last week. And my BP was checked CatLadyNZ, 141/70 so not too bad I think.
 

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Hi everyone & thanks for the welcome & info. There is so much to learn but I'm so relieved to have found this forum, was panicking a bit last week. And my BP was checked CatLadyNZ, 141/70 so not too bad I think.
Hi Janey, BP for diabetics needs to be under 130/80 to be safe, so you might want to discuss it with your doctor. Uncontrolled high BP can damage the kidneys and increase the risk of stroke.
 

Janey1904

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Was started on a statin... though Im wondering about that now after reading some posts here. I'll ask more about it next time it's checked.
 

ButtterflyLady

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Was started on a statin... though Im wondering about that now after reading some posts here. I'll ask more about it next time it's checked.
A statin is aimed at treating lipid levels - often the GP goes by the total cholesterol level but this is misleading. The correct tests to look at are triglycerides, HDL and LDL cholesterol. Often people do not need a statin, and the side effects can be severe. There is a lack of evidence about statins and women too. You can ask for a printout of your blood tests for your info and future reference.

If you start getting symptoms that could be statin side effects, I would suggest discussing it with your doctor asap. There are a number of threads about statin side effects if you do a search.

High BP is treated with lifestyle changes and, if needed, medications. The side effects of these are usually minimal, if any. At your level of BP, the NICE guidelines say lifestyle changes should be tried before considering meds. I guess this means reducing excess weight, if any, and increasing exercise. I use meds to control my BP, as lifestyle changes didn't help.
 

MacFee

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Hi I was diagnosed on 1st of October and my doctor was a bit the same told me to eat a healthy balanced diet and not worry about the figures for my blood sugar but I bought a monitor and have been watching it closely to see what effects me and what doesn't , I'm struggling a bit with what I can and can't eat but getting there slowly ! Xx
 
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Janey1904

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A statin is aimed at treating lipid levels - often the GP goes by the total cholesterol level but this is misleading. The correct tests to look at are triglycerides, HDL and LDL cholesterol. Often people do not need a statin, and the side effects can be severe. There is a lack of evidence about statins and women too. You can ask for a printout of your blood tests for your info and future reference.

If you start getting symptoms that could be statin side effects, I would suggest discussing it with your doctor asap. There are a number of threads about statin side effects if you do a search.

High BP is treated with lifestyle changes and, if needed, medications. The side effects of these are usually minimal, if any. At your level of BP, the NICE guidelines say lifestyle changes should be tried before considering meds. I guess this means reducing excess weight, if any, and increasing exercise. I use meds to control my BP, as lifestyle changes didn't help.

Thanks for that info, I'll have a good read of the threads = and take notes! - before I see my GP again
 
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Janey1904

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Hi I was diagnosed on 1st of October and my doctor was a bit the same told me to eat a healthy balanced diet and not worry about the figures for my blood sugar but I bought a monitor and have been watching it closely to see what effects me and what doesn't , I'm struggling a bit with what I can and can't eat but getting there slowly ! Xx

Hi, I haven't got a monitor yet, but I definitely will. I don't see how they think we can get to grips with this without knowing what our blood sugar is doing & what affects it.
 
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