Advice on foods for type 2

Debz229

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I have recently been told that I am diabetic and that I can control it by my diet, I am desperately trying to lose weight so I saw the dietary nurse at my GP surgery, I was told that anything sweet tasting is what I should be avoiding to my surprise this included peas, carrots, sweet potato, swede...? I love vegetables but all of the above are ones that I particularly like.
Please somebody tell me can I eat them...? Is this nurse talking rubbish....?
I work in a highly stressed job and do shift work which is really awkward....HELP
 

daisy1

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Hi Debz and welcome to the forum :) Some of the information you need is contained in this basic information that was written for new members. Have a read of this and then ask as many questions as you like as there is usually someone who can help you. I personally wouldn't eat any of the vegetables you list. But everyone is different and you may be able to tolerate small portions. You need to test before and 2 hours after eating them and you will see if you can eat them or not. The two results need to be similar.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Debz229

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Thanks Daisy, I will have a read. You say you wouldn't eat the vegetables I listed is that because they are not good for you or because you don't like them...? My GP hasn't really explained anything I only found out on the 20th September I've had an eye screening and a diabetic check today I've not really been told anything which is quite worrying
 

daisy1

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I do love peas and carrots but I am doing a low carb diet so they are things that I have cut out. You need to see for yourself if you can eat them. It seems, unfortunately, to be usual not to be told anything. You have come to the right place here to find out all you need to know and you can ask as many questions as you want. It's very good that you have already had the eye screening - that's very important. Have you had the results? I hope all is OK.
 

Debz229

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Thank you - I've been in a bit of a panic my Nan passed away last year due to type 2 which was controlled by diet and she was always 'very' careful. I only had my eye screening on 23rd September so I don't have the results yet, I can't check my blood sugars as I've not been given a tester. I really appreciate your help x
 

daisy1

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Try to get your DN/GP to give you testing equipment. You really do need to test to see which foods you can eat. If your DN/GP won't give you any test equipment then try phoning manufacturers to get a free meter and a few strips. There are also competitions to win a free one - they want you to use their strips. Your DN/GP may say to you that Type 2s don't need to test. Choose a meter which uses cheap strips. A lot of members here get their strips from e-bay.
 

borofergie

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Yes. You need to get a meter and test yourself.

Most of the worst carbs are the ones that don't taste sweet: rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, noodles, anything with flour in it.

It's also about portion size, some of the veg you mention might be relatively high in carbs, but you probably don't eat large quantities of them. I don't worry about peas, for example, because it's not like I'm going to eat half a plate full. But, as Daisy said, the only way to know for sure is by testing yourself a couple of hours after you eat.
 

Carbdodger

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I personally choose veg that is low carb. At diagnosis I bought the Collins Gem Calorie Counter which gives the carb count of foods including veg. I educated myself on what a serving size of a particular type of food equated to in carbs. It is now intuitive

So from my book sweet pots are 20.5 grams of carb per 100 gram compared to swede at 2.3. I eat swede on this basis. In fact at the weekend I made a swede and celeriac dauphinoise enjoyed by the whole family. They didn't bother with the potatoes I cooked just for them as the swede combo was so tasty!!

So I would encorage you to learn the carb value of foods and test your tolerance to different amounts. 50 grams spread over all meals is a high carb day for me.

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Daibell

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Some of the best vegetables are beans and pulses such as lentils, kidney beans etc. They are very low-GI. Green vegetables are generally very good and low carb. There are many websites you can Google which list foods and their GI positioning.