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ColinJ

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Just been recently diagnosed with T2 taking metformin 1 a day
with breakfast,can any tell me if its ok to have a drink at the end of the day.

Colin.
 

shinyathena

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Hi Colin..

They say to avoid alcohol ..BUT they say that to cover themselves ...you can drink in moderation but remember it will raise ur blood sugars..cider n beer are the worst for that...wine isnt too bad red is best but if ur a mans man keep it to a couple of pints but dont be suprised if ur sugars are really high the mornin after!
 

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shinyathena said:
Hi Colin..

They say to avoid alcohol ..BUT they say that to cover themselves ...you can drink in moderation but remember it will raise ur blood sugars..cider n beer are the worst for that...wine isnt too bad red is best but if ur a mans man keep it to a couple of pints but dont be suprised if ur sugars are really high the mornin after!

Sorry, not sure this is right. Yes, it's fine to drink the same as any other person, and it doesn't raise sugar levels, not even the next morning. Alcohol lowers blood sugars, which is why people on insulin and other sugar-lowering meds have to be careful to avoid hypos when drinking. Even the next morning, my BGs are lower than usual after a drink. Beer and cider do have carbohydrates, some more than others, but the alcohol tends to lower the BG more than the carbs can increase it. Coors light lager has half the carbs of normal lagerm, and lager in general has less than bitters and ciders., Mixers in spirits have to be diet ones of course, but spirits have zero carbs, and wine, even sweetish white ones, comparitively few (althgough dry reds are the best) In general terms, the stronger the alcohol, the lower the carbs. A very big session on bitter beer or stout could lead to higher BGs later but in practice don't seem to. On a boys night out I've had 8 or 9 pints of lager :oops: with low BGs after and low BGs the next morning. Wouldn't make a habit of that though! So OK in normal quantities, be careful if you're on strong meds (metformin OK) if you drink a lot.
By the way, I checked this out not just by testing but also by talking to an endocrinologist who specialises in diabetes and lectures doctors on it!
 
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Grazer said:
shinyathena said:
Hi Colin..

They say to avoid alcohol ..BUT they say that to cover themselves ...you can drink in moderation but remember it will raise ur blood sugars..cider n beer are the worst for that...wine isnt too bad red is best but if ur a mans man keep it to a couple of pints but dont be suprised if ur sugars are really high the mornin after!

Sorry, not sure this is right. Yes, it's fine to drink the same as any other person, and it doesn't raise sugar levels, not even the next morning. Alcohol lowers blood sugars, which is why people on insulin and other sugar-lowering meds have to be careful to avoid hypos when drinking. Even the next morning, my BGs are lower than usual after a drink. Beer and cider do have carbohydrates, some more than others, but the alcohol tends to lower the BG more than the carbs can increase it. Coors light lager has half the carbs of normal lagerm, and lager in general has less than bitters and ciders., Mixers in spirits have to be diet ones of course, but spirits have zero carbs, and wine, even sweetish white ones, comparitively few (althgough dry reds are the best) In general terms, the stronger the alcohol, the lower the carbs. A very big session on bitter beer or stout could lead to higher BGs later but in practice don't seem to. On a boys night out I've had 8 or 9 pints of lager :oops: with low BGs after and low BGs the next morning. Wouldn't make a habit of that though! So OK in normal quantities, be careful if you're on strong meds (metformin OK) if you drink a lot.
By the way, I checked this out not just by testing but also by talking to an endocrinologist who specialises in diabetes and lectures doctors on it!
I would agree with Grazer
 

Rivig

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Yep i would agree with Grazer too, it's a fact Alchohol will initially raise bg but then has the opposite effect & can lower it quite significantly.
 

Dougie22

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Yep. Agree with above.

I had a too big dinner last night (1421 cals altogether including crisps and chocolate) including drinking half a bottle of prosecco plus a small glass of white (end of bottle). With this kind of calorie load, I'd expect a two hour reading over 10 but the wine brought it right down to 5.6.

Interestingly the three hour reading was 8.6 (alcohol effect wearing off?) and a reading after a further 40 minutes was 6.6.

Big problem with alcohol (apart from the obvious) is the calories if you are trying to lose weight (just over 400 of my 1421 dinner was alcohol).

So I wouldn't recommend following my lead (and I don't do it often) but I think your safe with moderate alcohol.
 

ColinJ

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Been told by a very good friend that his mother was a diabetic who like most loved a drink and she was recommended to drink Holsten Pils as when this was first marketed it was aimed at diabetics because it was lower than other beer/lager in sugar. :thumbup:
 

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Don't think holsten pils is around now, but coors light (tescos) is half the carbs of normal lager
 

ColinJ

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Holsten pils not around!! i had a couple last night, 4 for £3 from Asda read the info on the can they use a unique fermentation process with the sugars. :thumbup:
 

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ColinJ said:
Holsten pils not around!! i had a couple last night, 4 for £3 from Asda read the info on the can they use a unique fermentation process with the sugars. :thumbup:

That's interesting Colin, I'll get myself down to Asda's and try some. Does it say what the carb content is on the can?
 

ColinJ

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Hi Grazer. I know what you mean with Coors light but its virtually non alcoholic,if thats the case i would prefer a Diet Coke.
 

Grazer

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ColinJ said:
Hi Grazer. I know what you mean with Coors light but its virtually non alcoholic,if thats the case i would prefer a Diet Coke.
Not so Colin! Got a bottle in front of me. It's 4.5% by volume, compared to Fosters at 4 and Stella at 5. So this is full strength. The Americans refer to "light" beer when it's light in carbs, not alcohol, 'cos loads of them are on diets.
 

ColinJ

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Grazer. Thats great news i will try some of that,i thought it was like "Low C ", where do you get it from,
Colin. :thumbup:
 

shinyathena

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Well my diabetic nurse said that any beer or cider will up the sugar...but it sounds like its different for everyone...I'm starting to think my nurse is a bit of an idiiot!!! or just likes to put the wind up me and scare me into being a T totaller! dont think so....I like a drink but dont go mad!

Cider shoots my sugars up ...and weirdly enough coke max whacks up my sugars too ! Shandy I was told is pure sugar....

~Thanks fer putting me straight...love this site i always learn something new every time I come on here!
 

Grazer

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shinyathena said:
Well my diabetic nurse said that any beer or cider will up the sugar...but it sounds like its different for everyone...I'm starting to think my nurse is a bit of an idiiot!!! or just likes to put the wind up me and scare me into being a T totaller! dont think so....I like a drink but dont go mad!

Cider shoots my sugars up ...and weirdly enough coke max whacks up my sugars too ! Shandy I was told is pure sugar....

~Thanks fer putting me straight...love this site i always learn something new every time I come on here!
For coke, you need diet come or come zero - no carbs. Won't affect your sugar. And remember nurses only repeat the party line - any excuse to spoil our fun! Shandy has carbs (sugar) because of the lemonade content. Don't drink woosy drinks and you'll be fine! :lolno:
 

ColinJ

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My GP specialises in diabetes and i asked him if it was ok to have a drink and he said it was fine within reason especially with red wine,bearing in mind there is hardly any prescription you get off any GP that does not say AVOID alcohol.
I have a friend who is Type 1 and his diabetic nurse told him to make sure that if he had a drink to have something to eat.
If you drink strong draught beers and have a fair amount of them might you just run you into a little bit of trouble so the boffins say,but i dont think having a drink is anymore unwise than having a bar of chocolate.