borderline diabetic?

lizziederby

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Hi, I have just joined and I have a question. My fasting test at lloyds chemist says 6.3 my doctor was annoyed that I had been for this test after being 5.7 this time last year but not monitored, he says to diet which I am not against also says do I pay for test which I would if I thought I was in danger. I have dizziness, headaches, rash my eyes are gritty which I have drops for. Has anyone had this experiance and do you think I should go back to my doctor with my concerns.
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daisy1

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Hi lizzie and welcome to the forum :) As a borderline diabetic you need to make sure you don't become a full diabetic if you can. If you are not feeling well and having those symptoms, then yes, you should go back to your doctor. These aren't necessarily symptoms of diabetes - they could be all sorts of things but they do need looking at. Since your doctor wants you to diet, and to avoid if possible, progressing to full diabetes, we have some information which will guide you on how to do it. Here is some information prepared by the Forum Monitors which they give to new members which you can follow even though you are not diagnosed.

Here is the advice that Ken and I, as Forum Monitors, usually give to newly diagnosed Diabetics. We hope that these few ideas gained through experience help you to gain control and give you some understanding of Diabetes. This forum doesn't always follow the recommended dietary advice, you have to work out what works for you as we are all different.

It's not just 'sugars' you need to avoid, diabetes is an inability to process glucose properly. Carbohydrate converts, in the body, to glucose. So it makes sense to reduce the amount of carbohydrate that you eat which includes sugars.

For more information on CARBOHYDRATE see here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=20306

This is NOT a low carb diet suggestion, just a reduction in your intake of carbohydrate. You have to decide yourself how much of a reduction will keep your blood glucose levels in control.

The main carbs to avoid OR reduce are the complex or starchy carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes, pasta, rice, starchy root veg and also any flour based products. The starchy carbs all convert 100% to glucose in the body and raise the blood sugar levels significantly.

If you are on Insulin you may find that reducing the carb intake also means that you can reduce your dose of insulin. This can help you to keep weight gain down as Insulin tends to make you put on weight and eventually cause insulin resistance. This should be done slowly so as not to cause hypos.

The way to find out how different foods affect you is to do regular daily testing and keep a food diary for a couple of weeks. If you test just before eating, then two hours after eating, you will see the effect of certain foods on your blood glucose levels. Some foods, which are slow acting carbohydrates, are absorbed more slowly so you may need to test three or even four hours later to see the effect that these have on your blood glucose levels.

Buy yourself a carb counter book (you can get these on-line) and you will be able to work out how much carbs you are eating, when you test, the reading two hours after should be roughly the same as the before eating reading, if it is then that meal was fine, if it isn’t then you need to check what you have eaten and think about reducing the portion size of carbs.

When you are buying products check the total carbohydrate content, this includes the sugar content. Do not just go by the amount of sugar on the packaging as this is misleading to a diabetic.


As for a tester, try asking the nurse/doctor and explain that you want to be proactive in managing your own diabetes and therefore need to test so that you can see just how foods affect your blood sugar levels. Hopefully this will work ! Sometimes they are not keen to give Type 2’s the strips on prescription, (in the UK) but you can but try!!

For TIPS FOR STRIPS see here:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=19002#p173253

If you are an Insulin user in theory you should have no problem getting test strips.

The latest 2010 NICE guidelines for Bg levels are as follows:
Fasting (waking and before meals).......between 4 - 7 mmol/l...(Type 1 & 2)
2 hrs after meals........................no more than 8.5 mmol/l.....( Type 2)

2hrs after meals......................... no more than 9 mmol/l ......(Type 1)

If you are able to keep the post meal numbers lower, so much the better.

It also helps if you can do at least 30 minutes moderate exercise a day, it can be split into 10 min sessions to start with. It doesn't have to be strenuous.

The above is just general advice and it is recommended that you discuss with your HCP before making any changes. You can also ask questions on the forum on anything that is not clear.

Finally a few QUESTIONS TO ASK AT DIABETES CLINIC.

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091



Sue/Ken.
 

JUSTFOCUS

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Hi
i would try another DR or Dn . There is no excuse for Dr's to be annoyed about anything . Really do try and (fine tune) your diet no other reason than you might just have caught it in time .Good luck and let us know the outome . :D JF.
 

lizziederby

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Type of diabetes
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Hi, sorry it's been so long. I went to see another doc in the practise she sent me for a fasting blood test which came out at 5.1 so I am not diabetic but how can the measurements change from my fasting test at the lloyds pharmacy of 6.3. My glucose tolerance test a year ago showed 6.11 so what''s going on? :(
 

roxy44

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Hi
all i can add is that i was borderline for a few years, and to be honest didnt take much notice,
kept saying i was going to eat better and lose weight ....never did...i had a few blood tests some led to a glucose intolerent test, which said i was ok just borderline....anyway got fed up of feeling like ****!! and kept putting it down to my age (50)
so went to the GPs, had bloods done...came back anemic, she then mentioned my blood sugar was high and i needed another intolerence test.... came back 17 days ago and i am now diabetic :(

oh how i wish i had listened in the 1st place!!! but it never happens or so you think..

on the up side...its the kick up the ass i needed...in 17 days i have lost 10lbs and this time i think of food in a different way, and i HAVE be careful now wether i want to or not if i want to avoid complications later.

so please listen and look after yourself before it turn into full blown diabetes
xx
 

CAT NM

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lizziederby and JUSTFOCUS,

I am quite new to this forum. I started to develop signs of diabetes last year. However my blood glucose levels were not tested. I had urine infections, shakes in my heands and toes. I was hoping that these symptoms would decrease. However I brought a home testing diabetes glucose kit. In the same day, without eating much sugar. Thus just stuff like a bean lasagne. My reading was 11.8mml/L and plus 9.4mml/L. Should I be concerned? I have been trying to have a diet with little glucose. I think that from other forum members it states that above ten is a concern. Plus a morning fasting glucose level. Is this 8 or ten hours not eating? Plus just drinking water? An ok level would be?
 

CAT NM

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daisy1

I have just posted asking a question, I put JUSTFOCUS and lizziederby onto the message. However I thought that I could ask you to. Would you be concerned with a glucose reading of 11.8mml/L. Plus 9.4mmol/L? Shakes in toes, hands. This is without the consumption of much glucose. Plus in the morning a recommended fasting glucose level?
 

CAT NM

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daisy1
It is just there is Type I and Type II diabetes. Another relative had Type II diabetes. There is the onset of diabetes impaired glucose tolerance and plus diabetes. However some is controlled through exercise and diet. Other requires insulin. My doctor did not test my glucose levels. Last year I had many urine infections and even a day where I was out cold. I woke with shaking hands and pins and needles in my feet and hands. I have not had any urine infections this year. However after eating I seem to have to visit the toilet a lot. Quite a lot of urine passes. I am thinking about making an appointment with my doctor tomorrow. Have you got any hints or tips as to testing with the glucose monitor? Plus diet? At a time after intense exercise I would get these clear spots. It was quite odd.
 

daisy1

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Hi cat. I suggest you read the information I posted earlier in this thread which should answer some of your questions. I recommend you see your doctor for your other health concerns.