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Discussion in 'Type 1.5/LADA Diabetes' started by Kristin251, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Kristin251

    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    What is it about hamburgers that spike me like crazy? I eat the same weighed portion as I do of all other proteins, including lamb chops ( red meat) and I always spike. It's ridiculous. I assume it's the saturated fat.

    I love lamb chops and buy 100% grass fed roast beef slices so I can live with that but this burger thing is annoying. It's nice to order when we go out. Chicken is usually cooked to a pulp and unpalatable haha. Guess it's back to salads.

    Anyone else have troubles with fatty meats? No chicken skins either. I does the same thing. Shame as I loved chicken wings and dip
     
  2. noblehead

    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    How big of a spike are we talking about @Kristin251 ?
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Strange. It happens even if you through everything else away except the meat and lettuce?
     
  4. Kristin251

    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Only about 25 (US) but I don't get any spike with other proteins. Same meal composition as always. And it was only 2 oz!!!!!!!
    i eat the same macros at every meal and every time I have burger I spike and all of my other proteins I stay steady or drop a hair.
     
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    noblehead Type 1 · Guru
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    TBH your worrying over nothing, a 1.4mmol/l (25mg/dl) rise is perfectly acceptable and is no reason to exclude a food item from your diet (unless you want to of course).
     
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    LittleGreyCat Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Can you be certain that it was 100% beef and no binder or filler?

    I suppose a proper test would be to mince some steak and make your own.
     
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    dbr10 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear. Burgers are a necessary evil if I'm out and can't find anything else. We don't have many options, without losing one.
     
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    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    I'm not worried or excluding it. It's just annoying and can't figure out why. It happens EVERY time. One would think lamb chops would do it too. I guess I'd just have to split bolus which is no big deal
    It was 100% grass fed ground beef. I make the patties myself. Definitely no fillers.
     
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    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Oops. That was supposed to go to you. 100% grass fed ground beef.
     
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    Different foods have different reactions, I find high-fat foods (eaten in quantity) causes insulin resistance for several hours after eating, but my point is a 25mg/dl rise in bg levels isn't a crazy spike by any stretch of the imagination.
     
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    ringi Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Did you make your own hamburgers or buy them ready made?

    If you made your own hamburgers did you mince the meat yourself?

    I am it thinking it could be how much the meat has been minced if factory made, as very fine mincing could result in faster absorption of the protein.
     
  12. Kristin251

    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Out of curiosity, when you say high fat foods do you include all fat or moreso animal fat like meat and dairy? Plant fats like avocado mayo olive oil have zero effect. Nuts CAN make me IR but not really raise me. Animal fat like lots of butter, bacon, chicken skin, fatty beef always make me IR and sometimes for days.
    I don't buy ready made ground anything. My co op minces it in house daily. There are Zero fillers and it want finally minced, rather more coursly. Stringy.
     
  13. noblehead

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    Saturated fats mainly @Kristin251
     
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    ringi Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have started to buy high-fat mince to make my own burgers mainly because with lots of spices mixed it they are so much nicer than ready made burgers. As the length and timing of my post meal walk changes, I can't say if I get a small spike from them.
     
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    Best make your own burgers then.
     
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    Don't look at your meter so much.
     
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    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for that. Glad it's not just me!!! And even more happy my lamb chops with visible fat cut off work!!! I'll take those over a burger any day. I like my organic grass fed roast beef slices as well. No spike at all from either.

    I don't think I digest all that animal fat as well either. Kind of just sits there. Haha
     
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    Kristin251 LADA · Well-Known Member

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    Type 1 here. Kind of a necessity.
     
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    @Kristin251 - Have you tried making a ground lamb, or ground pork hamburger> It could potentially be the grinding/minced nature of the meat processing causing you the issue, a bit like fruit smoothies, or pulp can be trickier than natural, uncooked or unprocessed fruit.
     
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    Sorry didn't check.
     
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