Diagnosed with type 2 last week

richardhurst

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Hi Everyone
I was diagnosed by my doctor last Friday as having type 2 diabetes, apparently my last two blood tests revealed my blood glucose levels to be 9 and then 7.8. He put me on Metformin, 2 tablets a day. Thankfully I've had no side effects to them. I've not yet seen the diabetic nurse for dietary advice but I'm eating 3 meals a day and have joined the gym to help shift some weight.

My question for everyone is that in the mornings when I do a test my readings are always around 7.2 - 7.7 and usually I wouldn't of eaten for at least 10-12 hours then after breakfast and lunch and some excercise around dinner time my readings have dropped to 5.6 and come down again after dinner after checking 1 and 2 hours afterwards for example last night was 5.6 before dinner, 6.7 1 hour after and 5.7 2 hours afters. But why is it always so high in the morning????
 

daisy1

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Hi Richard and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask any more questions you need to and someone will be able to answer you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Yorksman

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That's quite common and it's referred to as early morning bounce, dawn phenomenon and similar. It happens to me mid morning. I test when I get up and then a couple of hours later before I have breakfast. It often goes up from the 6s to the 7s. It's as if your liver thinks now that you are up and about, or in your case, soon to get up, it release extra glucose for energy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_phenomenon
 

richardhurst

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right, thats a bit of a relief then. was all happy when I checked saturday around 5pm and it was 5.6 and thought great everything is working then when I got a reading of 7.6 monday morning my heart sunk a bit, felt sort of lost and worried.
 

Yorksman

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If you can be bothered, get up at 4 am and do a test, just to see.
 

richardhurst

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Will do that in the morning then and see what it reads. By the way do doctors put test strips etc on prescription as they are about £7 per 10
 

Yorksman

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You can ask and many people do get them on prescription. It depends on how important close monitoring is for your treatment schedule. I bought myself an accu chek mobile which uses a cassette for test strips, 50 in each cassette. Full price, two cassettes are £55, ie for the equivalent of 100 tests. However, you can get the same discounted for between £30 and £35. My GP told me that I should continue with these until I have attended their clinic but they have a deal on some other meter and a deal on strips which can too be obtained on prescription if it is thought you need them. I'll have to see. Most of the metering stuff is not critical, it's to see what diets work for you and what causes spikes. They are very good for learning but you quickly see patterns emerging and you can cut down on their use I guess, unless your doc says keep a very close eye on things.
 

kevinf1967

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accu mobile cassttes i have had as low as £25 for 2 cassettes on ebay.. all sealed and in date..

but yorksman is right my GP told me not to as he thinks i will stop exercising if i get a reading of 5 etc... but its giving me a good idea of what i can and can't eat.. so i bought my own.
 

Yorksman

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kevinf1967 said:
accu mobile cassttes i have had as low as £25 for 2 cassettes on ebay.. all sealed and in date..

Thanks for that. I had seen them but was worried that they might be out of date or fakes at that price.