Driving licence revoked

alohanicky2009

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Just had a letter informing me that my licence has been revoked for 12 months, I think it is because my partner said at my last hospital appointment that he call an ambulance when I had a hypo, he is new to this diabetes roller coaster and panicked. I now will have to leave my job as I live in a village the nearest bus stop is 2 1/2 miles away and can not get to where I work before 9.40am, plus The DVLC did say I may be entitled to a bus pass , a lot of good that is as you can not use them before 9am. Do I have to wait a full 12 months before I can reapply or if I show that I am not having low sugars can I get my licence back, feeling a little low as I really depend on a car , my nearest doctors surgery is over 4 miles away.
 
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alohanicky2009,
sorry about the DVLA c&ck-up!
OH may have called ambulance, but did you have yourself under control before they arrived?
If you "hypo'd" he called the blood wagon, and you corrected the hypo before they arrived then I would argue that you did not require assistance.
 

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A single hypo needing assistance in 12 months shouldn't on its own be grounds for revoking a car licence; more than one serious hypo is.
However, they can revoke a licence for hypo unawareness.
according to the IDDT
The ABCD (association of diabetologists) suggest that for a Group 1 licence, where a patient’s home monitoring results show blood glucose levels of below 3mmol/L but reports no symptoms, this should be classed as hypoglycaemia unawareness. If hypoglycaemia below 3mmol/L without any awareness is typical of a patient’s hypos, then this may be classed as completely unaware and the patient should report this to the DVLA and be advised not to drive. When blood glucose levels are below 3 and there are no symptoms, cognitive dysfunction during the hypoglycaemia is likely to be present and there is a risk of severe hypos. People with these types of hypos should be referred to specialist care for a review of their regime.

http://iddt.org/about/living-with-diabe ... ised-to-do

You can get back a licence 12 months after the last incident of a hypo that needed assistance. If it's for being hypo unaware then I don't know how soon you can reapply. Certainly you'd have to demonstrate to your doctor that you were now aware. I think that it is something that the DUK careline might be able to give more specific advice on.
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/How_we_help/Careline/
 

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I would appeal if you are sure that you have a case alohanicky2009, whatever you do I wish you well!
 

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Still a bit shocked but yes my BS are low but the medics did treat me as my partner is not the best he thinks he knows diabetes but even I don t get it right after 18 years of living with it, will speak to DSNURSE to see what her thoughts are , but still not sure how I am going to get to work. It's is only 9 miles but no public transport to get to town, I might live in a beautiful part of the country but a car is vital not a luxury here in Cornwall but I will look on the bright side if I can t work more time to get out and walk in the fresh air ,
 

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This is typical of how the DVLA over react to people who still meet the criteria and don't play by their own rules. If this was the only assisted hypo you've had then I'd say you DO meet the criteria as it's only when you have more than one that you jeopardise your licence. Please phone Diabetes Uk they are very helpful in matters relating to DVLA, I had the DVLA wanting to investigate me when I had a few bad hypos in my pregnancy but DUK said so long as I had been able to treat myself I was under no obligation to inform them. As I had not at that point given my details to DVLA (only phoned up anonymously to make enquiry as I don't trust them!) then I took no further action with a clear conscience.

Good luck getting your license back I hear the DVLA appeals process is a joke but you may be lucky if you can show the licence was revoked erroneously.
 

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Just a thought.... although the DVLA can revoke a car licence, they cannot prevent people from riding a bicycle preferably powered by a battery :shh: :roll:
 

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Yes got the electric bike but there are too many hills where I live and the charge really does not get me too far certainly not to my work even when it is on Eco mode , or switched to just self powered, hopefully if I get a pump it may improve the BS and I can reapply for it to be reinstated, I have only had the paramedics called out once by a friend who panicked when I was dealing with a hypo but I do get lows and highs . I even wonder if dvla contacted GP or consultant, as I have never driven with low sugar in fact I tend to drive with caution and have higher BS to be extra safe
 

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If the DVLA have revoked your licence due to contacting your consultant or GP, then you do need to see them to ask exactly what they said in any report.
 

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I will do that and get a good positive report to appeal the ire decision , I think I will post a question to see if anyone here has appealed and what to expect and what will give myself a fair positive result or else the Rava will have to be sold not good to leave a car rust away . Thanks for your posts


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I'd be interested to know on what basis they revoked your licence. If you have never been hypo at the wheel and only had one hypo where an ambulance was called (did you require assistance to get out of the hypo or did you treat yourself before the ambulance came?) then I am not sure why it was revoked. Even if you did require assistance it is only the second time this happens that you would get a licence revoke, according to the rules as I understand them.

The only thing I can think is that they contacted your consultant (which would presumably need your permission) and he or she has said that you have poor hypo awareness (frequent hypos <3 mmol/l).

The paramedics can I believe inform the DVLA entirely independently when they deal with a situation where someone has gone hypo at the wheel but this clearly does not apply in your case.

Its stories like this which may drive some diabetics underground......people will resist involving the emergency services in the case of a hypo in case they get a licence revoke.
 

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They have revoked the licence because of lows , but no I have never had a BS below 5 ever while driving , I never driven longer than 2 hours at any time, the paramedics episode happen 8 months ago, so I assume that they contacted my GP or diabetic consultant who gave them my BS readings which I have recorded lows , but my hba1c are high 5 months ago was 126% which I am not proud of but shows I tend to run a shade high! I am going to ask my GP if she was contacted , then the consultant and will probably see about appeal as I have had to stop work as I can not get to jobs before 9 am , live in a rural village that has no public transport earnest bus stop is 3 miles away, and buses only every 3 hours in winter,, the paramedic did treat me but I would have treated myself in a chaotic fashion ,


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Well just seen the GP today , she has not heard from DVLC and was surprised to see that my driving licence has been revoked as was the DSNURSE, only other option was the hospital consultant , when I know who may have been approached and what has been written and if incorrect will then appeal! but I gather it can be a long , almost merry go round, while I have given up my jobs as I can't get to them , the truck will be standing idle not good! Or do I sell at a loss which feels as if I am giving up! Still got the DAFNE course to look to in a couple of weeks , hope after 18 years of diabetes not to set in my ways feels as every thing I had been told has changed, but control can only get better with better education,


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That is such a pain and hard to accept alohanicky2009.

I really do hope you manage to persuade the DVLA
to re-instate your driving licence.

You've had excellent replies with some good solid advice.
With all the information you've received in the feed-back, let's
hope you can make a good case towards getting your licence back.

All the best to you,
and good luck.

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I've just successfully appealed against DVLA. NHS direct sent an ambulance out - I had a prolonged hypo which I was treating - days after going onto the pump. My GP then told then he had no idea about what I was doing.
Endocrinologist backed me up and I argued that I didn't call the ambulance and I was self treating.
I now have licence back
 
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Still trying to find out if DVLC contacted anyone , my GP says she has been contacted my DSNURSE was shocked that I lost licence as no one has asked about my control from her but the hospital consultant or his sectatary for diabetes has not returned my calls when I ve left messages, so perhaps I need to chase that path a bit further, my eye consultant has said my eye sight should be fine for driving . I wonder if DLVC has asked anyone or just taken a vote and revoked it, perhaps I should not have been so honest and deny ever having a hypo, I have never called for help but some one did a number of months ago as they panic and did not know what to do, I am happy to treat a hypo in my chaotic fashion, but never drive with BS lower than a 6 ever, my BS generally are too high, will gather the energy to do battle ,
 

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My licence was revoked a year ago, I live in a village two county's away from work. I've continued to work, with a lot of planning and a helpful boss! Thank goodness for my bus pass otherwise it would cost me £29 to get to work or home, I have managed, though having to travel 4 hrs on bus after doing a waking night is hard work!!
I've just applied for a new licence, so fingers crossed I'll be on the road in 8 weeks time.
It's heart breaking to lose your freedom when losing the ability to drive, but sitting on a buss, iPod playing bypassing traffic is not that bad! X
 
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alohanicky2009

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Having my driving licence revoked, just to correct some points , I have not ever had a hypo that has required help from another person, although a friend who has never seen a hypo called an ambulance as they were frightened and panicked , I contacted my consultant , DSN and GP all never had a letter enquiry about my diabetes from DVLC in fact I suffer from hyperglycaemia , DVLA ( medical ) section when I finally spoke to a human voice could only advise me to reapply for my licence, they could give no information as to why my licence was revoked, - they asked if I put on the form that I had hypos( I dont think I did but I may have misunderstood a question and ticked the wrong box no way to correct this as the computer just reads boxes ,having my licence revoked has forced me to give up work, unable to get to work for even a 9.30 am start time, the last bus from the town nearest to my work is 2.5 miles away , the last bus from the town to my village is 3.20 pm, I live only 9 miles from the nearest town that has a bus station, and I would need to change at least twice ,so even if I could start later I need to finish by 2.45 to get to bus station, I have sold my truck, also find it increasing hard to attend my GP surgery no public transport (surgery only 2..5 miles away,) hospital appointments have to be planned well in advance , I am lucky that I have excellant friends who do take me to the shops, banks and appointments if I need, but I fell depressed about losing my independence, thankfully I live in a super beautiful village that does have a small shop, but no post office, pub , hall schools , I have spent money on transport as needed I wonder that if I do get my licence back can I afford a car, or to find another job,selling my home to move to another area is also not an option most houses are more expensive that my homes value
 

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D.V.L.A are part of the goverment most of the time they dont give a **** about you and me well here is a bit of advice bagger your MP about DVLA
and the time they take and your case you mite be serprised that DVLA sit up and lisen ,I was and it has now worked they are now moving a little faster (still slow) but if we all desend on DVLA wih our MP's in toe they my lisen?
 

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i was a motor cycle instructor a few years back and the bike test was being changed in to 2 parts.
When we inquired about the new test to the DVLA They didnt know a thing about it. ostrich heads.