Gliclazide???

Chris9R

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Hi all

I read a lot here but don't post much (sorry)

I've been diagnosed with T2 for just over a year now and for the last 6 months or so the slow release metformin has really given me a really windy problem along with an upset stomach almost every day.

I just had my yearly check and talked trough the problem with the nurse and she's put me on Gliclazade 80mg twice a day. I've been on them a week now and it's fantastic, no more upset stomp and more importantly no windy trouble ( my partner is very happy)

I'm just wondering how long it takes to work? My morning finger pricks are between 8 and 9 and 2 hours it's in the 12's. the lowest so far is 7.3, I did have lower readings on metformin 1000mg twice a day. I watch what I eat and walk about 2 - 4 miles a day with my dogs.

Any help ideas welcomed..

Thanks Chris
 

miahara

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Chris, I don't know if this is any use, but I was diagnosed T2 in December last year and put on 80mg Gliclazide one a day. I cut out all refined sugars and reduced my carb intake. My own monitoring of my daily average BG showed a steady decline that took until February this year to bottom out at 8.4 (daily average). It rose a bit over the summer and then in October I reduced my carb intake further and started eating more fats and my BG showed a marked drop to a low of 7.9, though it rose to 7.95 a couple of days ago due to a couple of unusually high lunch time readings of 10.4 pre lunch and 11.7 post lunch - may have been due to forgetting my meds the previous day.
 

Liam1955

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@Chris9R - Hi:). It has been reported by others who have been on Gliclazide to watch your weight. This medication can cause weigh gain, thought I would just point this out to. I have been on both Standard Metformin and SR Metformin and the SR gave me stomach problems so went back onto the Standard Metformin with no problems all.:)
 

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I suspect that I was put on Gliclazide as I'd lost a lot of weight and was underweight. I've gained a little, but not a lot.
 

Chris9R

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thanks both.

I've been told about weight gain so I will be watching it. I've just started running well more like shuffling so maybe that will help with the weight. I've tried both metformin and the SR normal metformin gave me a bad stomach from pretty much day one, so went on SR. that was ok but got worse and worse over time.

I did my blood just before my evening meal and it's 7.8. How long should it be before it returns to a "normal" level?
 
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Liam1955

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@Chris9R - Test your blood sugar usually 2 hours after the first mouthful of food. Others test 2 hours after the last mouthful. :)
 

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That's what I thought. Since I've been on the glic it's around 12
Hi Chris9R and welcome

May I ask what your bg's ran at before you started the Gliclazide? When are you due your next blood test (HbA1c) - presumably in 3 months?

Have you been given any advice regarding diet? The advice from the Health Professionals is usually to eat lower GI carbs etc which is not usually enough. Carbs are converted to glucose in your body and so then push up your glucose levels. In case you haven't had/read the information post, I'll tag @daisy1. Apologies to yourself, and daisy1, if you've already had the post. The information is invaluable and should help you to decide what foods your body can/can't tolerate. Also, in spite of probably being told you only need to test occasionally, you would do well to test immediately before eating and again at 2 hrs, which will show how your body deals with the different foods.
 

Chris9R

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Well it's been2 hours now since my evening meal. I took the glic about 45 mins before eating and tested before it was 7.8 is now 8.0. That's ok the best it's been since I started with glic.

Last hb1ac was 60. 12 months ago it was 99.

On metformin 2 hours after meals it would almost always be under 10.

Not sure if having the glic a while before eating helped or not.
 

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@Chris9R

Hello Chris and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Chris9R

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Thanks for that daisy

Does glic take a while to get into your system and working? My blood seems to be getting better, 6.4 this morning and right now it's 6.1, these are the lowest readings I've had since the switch to glic.

I'll test again before my evening meal and see how things are going.
 

Energize

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Hi Chris9R
Welcome to the forum

In answer to your question re how long for Gliclazide to get into system, I'm not sure but generally the advise is to take these tablets about 30 mins before breakfast and evening meal. Gliclazide will last approx 10 - 12 hours in your system - info from here https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/medicine/24126

Having said that, I think it also takes a little while for your body/system to get used to them so it will be a little while of consistent medication before you see more consistent results.

All I can suggest is to test immediately before your meal and again at the 2 hrs afterwards to be able to gauge what foods suit you best.