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KT10

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A very big hello from me to you all out there. I have finally taken the plunge and actually opened a thread. Hey the wonders of modern science. I have followed the NHS guidelines for the last four years and watched my Habc1 get worse.
Just wanting to find out more about taking control before I fall over the abyss.
 

Brunneria

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Good for you!

Welcome.

I have found out huge amounts from this forum. Hope it is good for you too.
 

bernie.freeman

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Hi KT10 welcome to the forum. You will get lots of really good support here. The key to controlling your blood sugars is to reduce your carb intake . Do you test your blood sugars ?
 

sanguine

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I have followed the NHS guidelines for the last four years and watched my Habc1 get worse.
Just wanting to find out more about taking control before I fall over the abyss.
Hi, welcome - it beggars belief that the NHS haven't put 2 and 2 together about this. Well, you're in the right place to start reversing that trend.
 

this is too difficult

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hi kt10 welcome to the forum.
It does not work for everyone but follow the diet advice here for a while and see how you get on.
PS I just said it does not work for everyone in case you are American.
Wouldn't want you to sue my ass off.
 
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KT10

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Good for you!

Welcome.

I have found out huge amounts from this forum. Hope it is good for you too.
Many Thanks for your welcome.
 

KT10

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hi kt10 welcome to the forum.
It does not work for everyone but follow the diet advice here for a while and see how you get on.
PS I just said it does not work for everyone in case you are American.
Wouldn't want you to sue my ass off.

No I can assure you Im not American reckon if I had been brought up there I would have been diabetic years earlier. Please no offence meant to our American friends!
 

Bebo321

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A very big hello from me to you all out there. I have finally taken the plunge and actually opened a thread. Hey the wonders of modern science. I have followed the NHS guidelines for the last four years and watched my Habc1 get worse.
Just wanting to find out more about taking control before I fall over the abyss.

Welcome!
Great place to come for advice and support, and well done for having the courage to step up.
 

KT10

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Hi KT10 welcome to the forum. You will get lots of really good support here. The key to controlling your blood sugars is to reduce your carb intake . Do you test your blood sugars ?

Hi Berni

Thanks for your welcome
Yes I have tried testing bloods but was amazed that my DN was really dismissive of carrying this out. So I've kind of stumbled along with a year between each habc1. Been put on metmorfin in December which I was informed its normal and that's the way it is.

So want to learn from more experienced members so I can prove them wrong. Have signed up to the years trial and following structured testing.
Took me a wee while to realise the system and support is not really there for people who want to take control!! I've went from 6.4mmol now 8.5 0n review.

Will tackle low carb eating in due course now rather than later!
 

KT10

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Welcome!
Great place to come for advice and support, and well done for having the courage to step up.

Hi Bebo321

Many Thanks for welcome
 

daisy1

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Hi KT10 and welcome to the forum :)

I know you are not newly diagnosed, but you haven't been given good advice on diet. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

KT10

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Hi, welcome - it beggars belief that the NHS haven't put 2 and 2 together about this. Well, you're in the right place to start reversing that trend.

Hi Sanguine

Thank you for your welcome. Good to know I'm not alone. Beggars belief I did not join the forum ages before the welcomes have been great. Thank You
 

KT10

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Good morning :) What is your new plan for eating?

Sorry I had to dash. To answer your question I have been reading Dr Briffas book the diet trap and looking at what is suggested there. Will look around site and listen to others who have went before me! However today Breakfast 2 egg omelette and tinned tomatoes Lunch frozen berries ,walnuts and Greek yogurt Dinner 2 pork chops and broccoli . Basically that type of thing each day but open to ideas !
 
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Spooky! I have almost the same breakfast and lunch as that every day. It's good stuff.
 

KT10

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Hi Daisy 1

Many thanks for the info it is much appreciated. In just the few posts that I have had I felt I have had more support and proper advice than my time with normal channels. That says a lot for the system which I now feel encourages failure. Hah rant over.

First time joined any site to post now ready to wander afar lol. Many thanks again






Hi KT10 and welcome to the forum :)




I know you are not newly diagnosed, but you haven't been given good advice on diet. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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Welcome KT10, and congrats on starting on the journey to control your own destiny.
In my opinion, one of the best things you can do is self-test with a meter and identify what food makes your blood glucose go too high, then adjust accordingly. There are plenty of threads here on how to do that most effectively. Trying to manage diabetes without a meter is like trying to drive a car under the speed limit without having a speedometer.
 
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