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Tracey_Hooper

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I have had type 2 for a few years now. Sadly I have been silly and not taken this too seriously but now I want to start doing so. My problem KS I like all the things I am not meant to and it's really start to affect me. I have just moved to a new area and I am hoping that my new Dr is more supportive than my last. But my weight is going up rather than down and my bloods are not at all good. Thanks for letting me join I hope with more support I can get this under control xx
 
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AM1874

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Hi @Tracey_Hooper .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

You have already made a positive start in dealing with your diagnosis .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 
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Prem51

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Welcome to the forum @Tracey_Hooper, It's good that you have decided to take action to control your condition. Many of us have found we can reduce our blood sugars, and often weight too, by adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating. Have a read round the threads to see how it works, and ask anything you want to. The people on here are friendly and you will get a lot of good advice and support.
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hello @Tracey_Hooper and welcome,

Perhaps you could tell us which diabetes medications you take and what your blood glucose levels are? Your last HbA1c and any levels you check yourself at home? If we know that we may be able to offer some help.
 

Tracey_Hooper

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hi @Tracey_Hooper .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

You have already made a positive start in dealing with your diagnosis .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. together with the following Diet Doctor websites, which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
Hello there
I have had type 2 for a few years now. Sadly I have been silly and not taken this too seriously but now I want to start doing so. My problem KS I like all the things I am not meant to and it's really start to affect me. I have just moved to a new area and I am hoping that my new Dr is more supportive than my last. But my weight is going up rather than down and my bloods are not at all good. Thanks for letting me join I hope with more support I can get this under control xx
Thanks I have a test set that my old nurse gave me. She told me not above 6 in the morning and not above 10 when going to bed. I am given test strips on repeat but need to get some I was told only to test am Monday after lunch Tuesday and before bed on Wednesday. People are telling me that she has given me wrong fasting figures and night time figures too. I need to do exercises but find it difficult because of my size but I am gonna start pushing myself to do something even of its just a walk around the block or something to start with
 

Tracey_Hooper

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Hello @Tracey_Hooper and welcome,

Perhaps you could tell us which diabetes medications you take and what your blood glucose levels are? Your last HbA1c and any levels you check yourself at home? If we know that we may be able to offer some help.
Metformin gliclazide and an non insulin injection. My last HbA1c was 12 I think haven't had it done this year yet. Need to test strips can't remember last think was around 8.8
 

Tracey_Hooper

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Sorry also take two blood pressure tablets and also a water tablet and am on a tablet for psoriasis too from the Dermatologist
 

Bluetit1802

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OK. With all that diabetes medication you should be seeing much better numbers than you are doing.

It sounds like you don't test very often? It would help you a lot if you started testing before you eat and again 2 hours after first bite. If the rise is above 2mmol/l there are far too many carbs in that meal. It is preferable for the rise to be less than 1.5. Doing this, and keeping a food diary including portion sizes, then recording your levels alongside, you can see at a glance what that food has done to you, and will be in a position to reduce the portion size or eliminate something. Patterns will emerge from doing this, and will be a great help to you.

It sounds like you really need to reduce your carb consumption - the worst culprits are bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, breakfast cereals and too much fruit.

With your medication you do need to be careful if you drop your carbs because you may go too low, so regular testing is essential.
 

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@Tracey_Hooper

Hello Tracey and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Tracey_Hooper

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Thank you all for your help. I am a carb fiend and I have to try and break that. I need to get better numbers I know that too. I am looking at the site here for help and information. I am gonna try really hard to do the carbs right down. What would you put with say chilli con carne instead of rice? Or if I made spaghetti bolingnaise what would I have instead of pasta?
 

Goonergal

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Type of diabetes
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Thank you all for your help. I am a carb fiend and I have to try and break that. I need to get better numbers I know that too. I am looking at the site here for help and information. I am gonna try really hard to do the carbs right down. What would you put with say chilli con carne instead of rice? Or if I made spaghetti bolingnaise what would I have instead of pasta?

Hi you could try courgetti (spiralized courgette) with your bolognese. I wasn't too sure about it but really like it. You can buy it ready prepared in supermarkets or spiralize your own (I do the latter). I also prefer it raw as it stays crunchier- find it gets a bit watery when cooked.

Many people use cauliflower rice instead of rice. I was never a big rice eater so don't use this so can't make any recommendations.
 
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