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Kittycat_7_

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Hi, I've just been diagnosed with diabetes type two. My fasting glucose on Tuesday was 14.1 mmols. My HbA1c was 85 mmols.
My BM on my mums machine was 19.1 mmols.
I have a nurse appointment on Monday and a GP appointment on Friday.
I feel terrible, urinating loads, headache, tiredness, very thirsty. I've had symptoms for years and wasn't diagnosed until Friday.
I'm hoping they will start me on tablets straight away.
I have a mum, uncle with diabetes my Nan also had as did both her sisters. So very strong family history.
I'm being careful what I eat.
I need to lose weight, which I hope I can do.
Thanks for any replies
 

Rachox

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Welcome Kittycat! I'm now six months from being diagnosed type 2. Once I was over the initial shock, I saw it as the proverbial kick up the bum to get healthier. I was started on Metformin tablets and tolerate them well now after a bit of stomach upset in the early days. I wasn't advised to eat low carb by my GP or Diabetes education course, but stumbled on this forum by chance and took up a low carb life style with self monitoring. I don’t know how your relatives manage their diabetes but I started by eating less than 100g carbs/day to begin with and then after 6 weeks reduced it to 50-70g/day, that’s what I continue on now. Caution needs to be taken on certain drugs going low carb but on just Metformin it’s ok. The best way to see what foods suit you is to test right before a meal and then two hours after the first bite, you’re looking for a rise of no more than 2 mmol/l and to be within these recommended ranges http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes_care/blood-sugar-level-ranges.html

This has worked for me, to date I've lost over 4 stone (still more to go) and got my HbA1c down to a non diabetic level, all due to the fantastic support and advise I got here. Read around the Forum and I'm sure you'll find a way to do it too!
 

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Hello and welcome to the group. Tagging @daisy1 who will swing by and give you some really good advice.
I too, was diagnosed about six months ago and with a change of diet and Metformin I have seen a return to acceptable blood glucose levels and some weight loss. It can be done and right here on this forum you can learn how to do it too.
 

Grateful

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Welcome. Like a good number of other forum members, I managed to "reverse" my Type 2 diabetes with a low-carbohydrate diet. This is a great place for support and for hearing about the experiences of others who are dealing with the disease.
 

Kittycat_7_

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Thanks so much for the welcomes and great advice. My family started on tablets, all are on insulin now.
 

daisy1

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@Kittycat_7_

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to answer.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 276,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Grateful

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My family started on tablets, all are on insulin now.

That is not an unusual progression.

The first tablet prescribed is often Metformin, which doesn't directly lower blood glucose levels but is useful in various ways. It diet+Metformin is insufficient, then stronger drugs are prescribed that work in various clever ways to lower your blood glucose levels. Finally, if those drugs don't do the trick, injected insulin becomes necessary.

However, in the experience of many people on this forum, diet is overwhelmingly more important at the start of that progression, and indeed as a way to avoid that progression altogether, or put it off for as long as possible.

Judging from what I have read on this forum, here is what tends to happen. (I am not saying it will happen to you, just summarizing a mountain of other people's stories.) Newly diagnosed Type 2 diabetics (T2Ds) are either given pills with not much advice on diet, or when they are given diet advice, are counseled to eat a "well balanced" selection of food. In the UK this is called the "eatwell plate" or similar. (I am in America, where the advice is often similar.)

The problem with this diet, in my opinion, is that while suitable as advice for non-diabetics who might be overweight or might have bad dietary habits, it may do very little to lower a diabetic person's blood glucose levels (and some of us were eating a "healthy diet" already, but it did not prevent us from developing T2D). Lowering the portion size, partaking of all the major food groups, lowering the calories are all conventionally seen as laudable goals. But if you have Type 2 diabetes, they do not have the "punch" of simply lowering the quantity of carbohydrates in your diet.

So if I were you, I would try to avoid feeling that because I have quite a few relatives with diabetes and all of them are now on insulin, it will necessarily happen to me. It may happen, but even then, there is a chance that you can delay the day when you become insulin-dependent, simply with a low-carb diet.

It is important to note, as others have already, that if a low-carb diet is combined with diabetes drugs (apart from Metformin) then you should adopt a low-carb lifestyle only with medical advice because you may have to adjust the drug dosage to avoid side-effects.

The information provided by @daisy1 is great. I also find the following very useful:

If you are interested in the low-carb diet, this link explains the choices, from "moderate" diet to "extreme": http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diet/low-carb-diabetes-diet.html.

A great site for food information and recipes: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb.
 
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Kittycat_7_

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Just an update, went to see the practice nurse. My BP is also elevated so they have put me on 24 hr BP monitoring.
She won't start me on tablets as says I'm a complex case and need to see my GP on Friday.
I have already lost some weight so really pleased.
My pulse is also fast so had an ECG that showed tachycardia.
Thanks everyone
 

wiflib

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Just an update, went to see the practice nurse. My BP is also elevated so they have put me on 24 hr BP monitoring.
She won't start me on tablets as says I'm a complex case and need to see my GP on Friday.
I have already lost some weight so really pleased.
My pulse is also fast so had an ECG that showed tachycardia.
Thanks everyone

Hi Kitty.

Tachycardia just means fast heartbeat and a fast heartbeat has many causes, the vast majority of which are entirely normal.
 
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