i have just been diagnosed and i am feeling very, very down, confused, scared, lost and in a dark pl

Enclave

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I eat a LOT of lentils, beans, chickpeas, zucchini, peppers, onion, garlic, rice, carrots, tofu and what not. I don't eat anything to do with gluten (i'm celiac) nor anything that comes from an animal (so no dairy, eggs, honey or the like) don't miss any of it overly so - at times when in the bakery i'll miss having fresh bread that is fast and easy to make intend of the involved process i have to do now, but just means I don't fill up on that stuff instead lentils make a large part of the deal for me, I do lentil stew up weekly and a couple times a month I'll do up cabbage stew as well (replace the meat with tofu n lentils instead) healthy and full of what my body needs plus low in sodium (i average 250 mg a day by choice not because i have to be on a low sodium deal intact my doc wont's me to increase my intake, which I find really hard to do) n high in potassium and fiber.
Wow .. Amazing .. I cannot go near. Lentles or chickpeas without my sugar going through the roof .. Also cannot eat rice ... As again my sugar will rise too high .. It just shows how diffrent we all are. Had a lecture from my Drs on cutting out all salt from my diet .. I just wonder how Unwell i will be if I followed their advice .. I am LCHF and need more salt than I did when I was on low fat foods as they are packed with salt !
 

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Rice, pasta and bread spike me too, along with jacket potatoes :(.

I'm trying to increase protein intake but am finding it really difficult and end up eating loads of cheese. My fat intake exceeds by far my protein and carbs. :(
 

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Well, I have not been here for a few days. I finally got my own meter last night, my friends bought me it as an early Christmas present, along with a pile of strips etc.(it's a Bayer contour XT, should anyone be interested) very easy to use. My first measurement was 110 pre Dinner, 2 hours after dinner ( 2 ryvitas with a little hummus and a banana) it was 131. Best so far, it was 190 when the Nurse took it Monday morning. Wasn't due to have another measurement until this Morning (Wed). My vision is still blurry and the Headache persists, so I'll have another word with the doctor about that later this morning.. The Nurse weighed me on Monday, I am ashamed to say I was 120 KG, However, the last time I did it myself, in the local Pharmacy as my bathroom scales didn't go high enough!. It was 133 KG so 13 KG has gone in the last 4 weeks or so. I have completely changed my lifestyle, I try to keep busy and walk the dogs a lot. Let's hope I can keep it up. I am nearly always hungry, but I expected that. I am a reasonable cook and can make something tasty, what I can't do is make it as satisfying without chips or bread etc. Maybe someone can tell me what they do to get and retain, for more than 20 minutes, a 'full' feeling. Or is it not achievable n a mostly Veg and protein diet?. Feeling a little better in myself now the blood sugar is going down and I have some control with my meter.
 

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as @Enclave suggested, you may find it better if you keep the fats up, carbs down and protein around normal, the fats replace the lost energy from the carbs and keeps you from being hungry and cold... you will still lose weight.

drink plenty of water and you will need to add some salt to your diet when you cut carbs, have at least a total of a teaspoon of salt/2000mg of sodium a day,
[simple test if you are dizzy lightheaded, headache, have a teaspoon of salt in water, if it quickly goes away it's a salt deficiency. as enclave said without the junk food, you have cut most of your salt]

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


blood testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

food counting
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2
“It is now clear that Type 2 diabetes is caused by abnormal fat storage. Research on how this may be reversed is available. “click that link on this page http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/mar/weight-loss-surgery-and-type-2-diabetes.html

American diabetic association ( http://www.professional.diabetes.org/)
http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;
therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.
In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich eating pattern may benefit
glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.
 
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GuidoGuy202

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as @Enclave suggested, you may find it better if you keep the fats up, carbs down and protein around normal, the fats replace the lost energy from the carbs and keeps you from being hungry and cold... you will still lose weight.

drink plenty of water and you will need to add some salt to your diet when you cut carbs, have at least a total of a teaspoon of salt/2000mg of sodium a day,
[simple test if you are dizzy lightheaded, headache, have a teaspoon of salt in water, if it quickly goes away it's a salt deficiency. as enclave said without the junk food, you have cut most of your salt]

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video
http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm

http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


blood testing
http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php
http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

food counting
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2
“It is now clear that Type 2 diabetes is caused by abnormal fat storage. Research on how this may be reversed is available. “click that link on this page http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2010/mar/weight-loss-surgery-and-type-2-diabetes.html

American diabetic association ( http://www.professional.diabetes.org/)
http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;
therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.
In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich eating pattern may benefit
glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.
 

GuidoGuy202

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Hi everyone I don't mean in anyway to turn this into my post but hears my story. I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes march 2013 and have been somewhat succeeding in my battle with this disease. Since starting insulin treatment (8 lantus units morning around 15 novolog units/day) my eyes are just not the same. After about 6 months of going through these vision problems I became depressed and extremely anxious about my appearance. I've been to doctors and most think that it's just my eyes going through the change of my blood sugar going from a high average back down to a normal average. Other doctors think I've developed a neuropathy (specifically cranial mononeuropathy iii). So following these visits I figured I would do some research and figure out a way to get my vision back so I researched treatment and it seemed the only solution is tight control of blood sugar or surgery. I've done eye patching too throughout the last year and it seems to help only temporarily. Also I've tried and control my blood sugar as best I can with an a1c of around 6.0. Though having a very good a1c i have felt that I have had numerous highs and lows (blood sugars). What can I do about this neuropathy? I've been trying so hard to get my vision back since being diagnosed but it's been so hard and it's ruining every aspect of my life last year I dropped out of school and quit my job because I just can't focus on any given task and I feel as if I don't want to do anything until I feel myself again. With diabetes is it more about what you eat or how you manage your blood sugars? I've been stabilized for nearly half a year. What am I doing wrong? I'm also 19 years old and weight 175lbs. Any input would be great. Thank you so much!!
Sincerely,
Justin
 

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Hi everyone I don't mean in anyway to turn this into my post but hears my story. I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes march 2013 and have been somewhat succeeding in my battle with this disease. Since starting insulin treatment (8 lantus units morning around 15 novolog units/day) my eyes are just not the same. After about 6 months of going through these vision problems I became depressed and extremely anxious about my appearance. I've been to doctors and most think that it's just my eyes going through the change of my blood sugar going from a high average back down to a normal average. Other doctors think I've developed a neuropathy (specifically cranial mononeuropathy iii). So following these visits I figured I would do some research and figure out a way to get my vision back so I researched treatment and it seemed the only solution is tight control of blood sugar or surgery. I've done eye patching too throughout the last year and it seems to help only temporarily. Also I've tried and control my blood sugar as best I can with an a1c of around 6.0. Though having a very good a1c i have felt that I have had numerous highs and lows (blood sugars). What can I do about this neuropathy? I've been trying so hard to get my vision back since being diagnosed but it's been so hard and it's ruining every aspect of my life last year I dropped out of school and quit my job because I just can't focus on any given task and I feel as if I don't want to do anything until I feel myself again. With diabetes is it more about what you eat or how you manage your blood sugars? I've been stabilized for nearly half a year. What am I doing wrong? I'm also 19 years old and weight 175lbs. Any input would be great. Thank you so much!!
Sincerely,
Justin

We probably need further information but of most interest would be your diet ... what do you eat? How far do those BS fluctuate?

Is everyone satisfied with your weight? I sincerely hope you get those issues sorted and there'll be people far more qualified than I to offer some advice. Best of luck

Mike
 
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GuidoGuy202

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Thanks for your replies. And my blood sugar fluctuates from around 50-220 I play basketball often and it's hard to keep it under control and balance my exercise with the amount of novolog I take. Normally I eat eggs for breakfast with maybe two hotdogs then for lunch usually baked chicken nuggets and French fries or maybe chicken nuggets or a salad and for dinner baked chicken with a decent amount of white rice an a vegetable. I'm very active so I feel the things I eat shouldn't be affecting my vision in this way and I've been to several eye doctors this year and they say my eyes are fine they are just going through the change of being in the 200 range down to the 120-150 range but after doing some research I think I have cranial mononeuropathy iii and After talking to my diabetes doctor he thinks that I have it as well
 

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I defer to Jack :)
no, I was adding to your post :) , after bg and diet for blurry vision which a lot of us get when we cut carbs or T1 sorts the insulin...there is the annual eye check to see if there is real damage
 

GuidoGuy202

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Thanks for your replies. And my blood sugar fluctuates from around 50-220 I play basketball often and it's hard to keep it under control and balance my exercise with the amount of novolog I take. Normally I eat eggs for breakfast with maybe two hotdogs then for lunch usually baked chicken nuggets and French fries or maybe chicken nuggets or a salad and for dinner baked chicken with a decent amount of white rice an a vegetable. I'm very active so I feel the things I eat shouldn't be affecting my vision in this way and I've been to several eye doctors this year and they say my eyes are fine they are just going through the change of being in the 200 range down to the 120-150 range but after doing some research I think I have cranial mononeuropathy iii and After talking to my diabetes doctor he thinks that I have it as well
Also my blood sugar gets high overnight when I forget to treat it but I've been pretty good at keeping those nights to a minimum compared to last year
 

GuidoGuy202

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We probably need further information but of most interest would be your diet ... what do you eat? How far do those BS fluctuate?

Is everyone satisfied with your weight? I sincerely hope you get those issues sorted and there'll be people far more qualified than I to offer some advice. Best of luck

Mike
And I forgot to add that I'm actually trying to put some more weight on in muscle I'm 6,0 and rather slender I just figured id add the weight if that would help somehow
 

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Thanks for your replies. And my blood sugar fluctuates from around 50-220 I play basketball often and it's hard to keep it under control and balance my exercise with the amount of novolog I take. Normally I eat eggs for breakfast with maybe two hotdogs then for lunch usually baked chicken nuggets and French fries or maybe chicken nuggets or a salad and for dinner baked chicken with a decent amount of white rice an a vegetable. I'm very active so I feel the things I eat shouldn't be affecting my vision in this way and I've been to several eye doctors this year and they say my eyes are fine they are just going through the change of being in the 200 range down to the 120-150 range but after doing some research I think I have cranial mononeuropathy iii and After talking to my diabetes doctor he thinks that I have it as well

Now that we know that, I'd suggest you consider a review of your diet.

White rice, breads, breaded chicken (?) and hotdogs (you're from the States I take it?) and potatoes (that is french fries) are (at least for MANY people with T2) an absolute "no no".

You need to cut out the carbs big time and they are major offenders ...

Mike
 

GuidoGuy202

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Now that we know that, I'd suggest you consider a review of your diet.

White rice, breads, breaded chicken (?) and hotdogs (you're from the States I take it?) and potatoes (that is french fries) are (at least for MANY people with T2) an absolute "no no".

You need to cut out the carbs big time and they are major offenders ...

Mike
Ok that sounds good I will certainly do that. What are some things to replace the carbs because I'm constantly playing basketball and before being diagnosed carbs were and still are the only food that really fills me throughout the day
 

GuidoGuy202

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Ok that sounds good I will certainly do that. What are some things to replace the carbs because I'm constantly playing basketball and before being diagnosed carbs were and still are the only food that really fills me throughout the day
And yes I'm from New York ☺️
 

pavlosn

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Now that we know that, I'd suggest you consider a review of your diet.

White rice, breads, breaded chicken (?) and hotdogs (you're from the States I take it?) and potatoes (that is french fries) are (at least for MANY people with T2) an absolute "no no".

You need to cut out the carbs big time and they are major offenders ...

Mike
@GuidoGuy202
Cutting back on carbs should help you manage your diabetes better but as a t1 on insulin you have to be careful to do this gradually reducing your insulin as you go along otherwise you run the risk of hypoglycaemic attacks. There are a number of t1's on this forum who eat low carb so I am sure that one will be along soon to advise further. I am a t2 on oral meds only so do not have the relevant experience

All the best

Pavlos


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GuidoGuy202

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@GuidoGuy202
Cutting back on carbs should help you manage your diabetes better but as a t1 on insulin you have to be careful to do this gradually reducing your insulin as you go along otherwise you run the risk of hypoglycaemic attacks. There are a number of t1's on this forum who eat low carb so I am sure that one will be along soon to advise further. I am a t2 on oral meds only so do not have the relevant experience

All the best

Pavlos


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Thank you for your post. I definitely think cutting back on carbs will be the right solution it's just so hard for me because before being diagnosed in March 2013 I would play a lot of basketball and then eat carbs but now as a diabetic I have to find a replacement food that will keep me from being hungry all day throughout my physical activity
 

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Ok that sounds good I will certainly do that. What are some things to replace the carbs because I'm constantly playing basketball and before being diagnosed carbs were and still are the only food that really fills me throughout the day

Sorry ... missed the fact you're T1 so I bow out as that I know zilch about that condition as opposed to T2 despite the fact they're in some ways (a lot of ways) similar. That said, I'd still suggest a diet review.

Unless I'm corrected, I will still say this ..... the foods you eat need a review in terms of sugars and carbs. You're 19 so time to take charge of this. There's heaps of info out there and you HAVE come to the right site.\

Ask away and look after yourself

Mike