Low carb didn't work for me.

[douglas99]

Just been out for a walk.
An hour, down by the river.
Watching all the ducks, the canal boats, even the local rowing club getting ready to go out.
Didn't quite resist a half in the local micro brewery.
I am so going to miss this place next month when I return home to village life.
I'm seriously tempted to keep it just as somewhere to come to get away from the quiet!
I also think my daughter is going to get fed up of me at weekends!

 

[forge]

G'day all,

This is my second similar post. (I apologize for that if it annoys anyone.)
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Everyone seems to be doing this hit and miss but in my opinion the structured approach is the easiest.

A) Knock out all the major carbs out of your diet - that gives you a baseline
B) Introduce carbs to find your own tolerance limit
C) Stay within your limit
D) When weight loss changes your carb tolerance limit, then increase your carbs

Extra veg is fine extra protein is not necessary, the object is to get us as close to NORMAL as possible.

BS is all about the carbs not fat HF or LF or anything else but some find it useful for hunger control on extreme lo carb diets..

If you do the above the door opens for a new hobby COOKING and innovative cooking mainly with nut flours and fake sugars. Treat it as fun and you will have fun.

 

[donnellysdogs]

G'day all,

This is my second similar post. (I apologize for that if it annoys anyone.)
_
Everyone seems to be doing this hit and miss but in my opinion the structured approach is the easiest.

A) Knock out all the major carbs out of your diet - that gives you a baseline
B) Introduce carbs to find your own tolerance limit
C) Stay within your limit
D) When weight loss changes your carb tolerance limit, then increase your carbs

Extra veg is fine extra protein is not necessary, the object is to get us as close to NORMAL as possible.

BS is all about the carbs not fat HF or LF or anything else but some find it useful for hunger control on extreme lo carb diets..

If you do the above the door opens for a new hobby COOKING and innovative cooking mainly with nut flours and fake sugars. Treat it as fun and you will have fun.

Forge...This particular posting is actually more of a blog than anything from Douglas99.

 

[douglas99]

Always happy for anyone to comment on what they do though, we're all different.

Just checked my BS, about an hour or so after eating, but eating after exercise. Similar meal to yesterday, probably a few more beans today though.
7.6.

 

[forge]

Thanks @donnellysdogs

I have noticed that but others do read these posts looking for guidance too.

I hope it helps someone who is battling to gain control.

I can't find a good simile for this forum and the scatter gun approach (and lots of observations from a sample size of one) but the closest I can get is like having roads without road rules with everyone thinking their way is the best way. But with a structured approach everyone will get to their destination faster and safer.

 

[forge]

Hello @douglass99

I think you will find we are not all different when it comes BS. It is only carbs that sends us high and we all have a carb tolerance level. Different foods have nothing to do with it nor does our likes and dislikes. Diabetes T2 treats us all the same we just have to find our carb tolerance limit and stay below it.

I know we all like to think we are different.

 

[douglas99]

Thanks @donnellysdogs

I have noticed that but others do read these posts looking for guidance too.

I hope it helps someone who is battling to gain control.

I can't find a good simile for this forum and the scatter gun approach (and lots of observations from a sample size of one) but the closest I can get is like having roads without road rules with everyone thinking their way is the best way. But with a structured approach everyone will get to their destination faster and safer.

I've never said my way is the best way.
All I've ever claimed is it's the way that suits me, and lets me balance various aspects of my life that are important to me, in a way that is important to me.
For other people, different things are important, and they achieve the results, and the trade offs, in a way that suits them.

 

[donnellysdogs]

I've never said my way is the best way.
All I've ever claimed is it's the way that suits me, and lets me balance various aspects of my life that are important to me, in a way that is important to me.
For other people, different things are important, and they achieve the results, and the trade offs, in a way that suits them.

We know that.

 

[forge]

Sorry @douglas99 I was not referring to you specifically.

I have things that are important to me too but there is nothing more important than my health.

 

[douglas99]

Hello @douglass99

I think you will find we are not all different when it comes BS. It is only carbs that sends us high and we all have a carb tolerance level. Different foods have nothing to do with it nor does our likes and dislikes. Diabetes T2 treats us all the same we just have to find our carb tolerance limit and stay below it.

I know we all like to think we are different.

I posted before I read this.
Diabetes isn't the same for us all.
Carbs send us high, so can proteins to a degree.
Our livers can also send us high.
Insulin resistance will.
Lack of beta cells will.
It's all in the mix.
Carb tolerance can change, depending on how many carbs you regularly eat.
My mix is my mix, if you think your's is the same, that's what you think. Me. I don't know.

Different foods have a great deal to do with it, for me, individually. I eat to my meter, and that's my baseline.
You may know we like to think we are all different.
Me, I don't know about you, so I can only post the things I do know, and that's me.

 

[douglas99]

Sorry @douglas99 I was not referring to you specifically.

I have things that are important to me too but there is nothing more important than my health.

@forge That's a very philosophical question.
What would you trade to ensure 100% health?

Bearing in mind your signature?

 

[forge]

@douglas99

Wealth certainly does not come first ( I have a saying that I think is funny - life saving drugs are not worth the money)
When it comes to favorite sports, hobbies and interests they are all disposable there are plenty more to choose from.
I would have to give serious consideration to giving a kidney to a family member who needed it but maybe not a complete stranger.

We were flooded in 2011 our house (only 15 years old brick with a tiled roof) was slimed we lost a lot of possession we gutted the house with the help of volunteers and we were left with the frame roof and floor.

Books carpets all sorts of things even the fridge and the Big TV power tools we collected over the years got slimed then picked up by the council end loader while we watched and added more to the pile. We saved our art collection and most of our clothes and the vehicles.

I got a payout and my son and I plus contractors for elec plumbing plastering and painting rebuilt it.

After that we re-evaluated.

 

[forge]

Everything my endocrinologist diabetes specialist has told me has worked out fine and as predicted and what you say is probably correct.

But I expect some things change us in small ways and make us different but I am confident that my specialist is on the ball and if I follow the main game as he suggests the rest will look after itself.

The main game which is carbs

The other things can be reasons if the main game does not work out. But if that ever happens then my specialist can sort it out.

I think he works on;
It is like building, nothing worthwhile was ever built on poor foundations - get the carbs right then you can work from there..

 

[douglas99]

Well 5.8 this morning, but 4.2 before going to bed.last night.

The 5.8 isn't unusual, but I don't usually get down to 4.2, (well not without a period of not eating, and some work), then I really need to eat.
Funny thing is I normally can tell if I'm below 5, but this time I felt fine.
So maybe something has shifted my range down a bit as it were.
It's interesting, as I ate the same meal as the night before, all I did different was put in some baked beans, to bulk it up.
I did go up to 7.6 shortly after eating, whereas yesterday it was only 6.6.
So, a higher peak, (expected from either the baked beans and/or the brisk walk) and a bigger drop?
I'll be keeping my eye on that, and may try reducing the Sitagliptin sooner if it keeps happening.

But today it' a day off. booked into a local spa for an overnight stay with the wife. So relaxation, plus some swimming, and I'll be able to get back in the gym, at least for one night. And obviously a hotel meal and breakfast, so probably a 'fasting' day until we arrive.
('fasting' in quotes, as for me, I found fasting as such didn't really work for me either, grazing on salad tends to keep my metabolism ticking over as it were.)
Then, unfortunately, I've done a good job on the laminate flooring here, my wife wants the hall done at home on Saturday!

 

[douglas99]

Left the meter at home, so no idea what it was like yesterday.

But it wasn't bad food, apart from some crusty white bread when we arrived, with the pate and the champagne mid afternoon.
Crab, followed by a beef stir fry, and the cheese board, with a handful of crackers at dinner.
Nice bottle of chilled white, and a couple of brandies to follow.

Pushed the boat out with a cooked breakfast this morning.

Came home and tested, 5.7.

But I've created a monster with Mrs D.
She's decided work is too stressful. She's now got a 'cunning plan'. Retire at 55, (not too far away), sell the house, and buy another one to renovate. Do that a couple of times, then buy a bungalow as the retirement home.
Sounds ok, apart from the 'renovate' for her means she'll do a bit of painting when I finish the building work.
To be fair though, I don't plan to retire in the house we have at present.
I need to convince her after we've sold, a better plan is to buy a couple more terraces, and somewhere in France or maybe Spain near a decent dive site.
Do them up, then sell a couple of the UK houses, rent out the rest as our pension, and buy somewhere nearer a ferry port, as the final home, with a decent area for a large garage, so I can carry on playing with the cars as well.

 

[douglas99]

Well, out to do some work for a customer this afternoon, and got back late. Realised I hadn't eaten all day, so checked my BS. 5.5.
Not too bad.
Still, that'll help the diet along.
Quick bit of chinese, and pouring some self levelling compound in the hall now, ready to lay the floor tomorrow.
Mrs D is getting stuck in, she's actually mixing the compo for me!

 

[douglas99]

Oddly enough, I was discussing diets with my customer, (a doctor), they had much the same opinion as me. Nothing wrong with a LCHF diet, if you need to do it, but it does lower your tolerance to any carbs after you've been on it for a while.
She agreed, when I went through my figures, if I can get those results, it was better for me to keep up some tolerance to carbs, and not stress about following a more rigid diet that didn't suit my individual lifestyle.

(The conversation started after I had to apologise for keep hiking my trousers up, I didn't realise but I put on an old pair from the pre diet days, and they weren't a good fit any more)

 

[Andy12345]

youve lost 4 stone since being on the diet? and you accidentally put on a pair of pre diet jeans? when i lost 4 stone i could put both legs in one leg on my old jeans, you must have been really tired when you dressed today

 

[douglas99]

Wear a belt?
And you really can't remember the old 'stretch' pants, with the elastic in, to convince you you weren't really that big?

 

[Andy12345]

oh i see, stretchy jeans, gotcha