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rocker

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Just been told I have Diabetes 2 .My doctor is going to control it by diet That was it !So what should I cut out I know sugar and sweet thing are out but what about bread and potatoes I am going back to see my doctor and ask him these question but due to all the cut backs in the NHS the earliest appointment is 4 weeks to see my doctor so I thought I try here while I wait/I know the list will be endless but just a rough guide will do
 
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Diakat

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Hi @rocker. All carbs turn to sugar in the body so you'lyou'll need to experiment a bit to see what works for you - get a meter. @daisy will post some info on carbs for you soon.
 
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Oh forgot to say welcome!
 

miahara

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Yes @rocker , cut sugar and sweet things they are the obvious ones, but carbohydrates such as bread, potatoes and rice are also on the naughty list! Carbs when eaten are converted to glucose (sugar) which is what you are trying to avoid.
 
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MaxRebo001

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Ok i'm sure daisy will be along with her guide for the newly diagnosed, take the time to have a good read as iy really does have a lot of useful information to help you.

If your doctor follows the standard guidelines of cutting back on sugar, fats etc and concentrate on starchy carbs like potatoes and carrots then please don't follow that advice blindly.

Everyone of us is different and our bodies will react diffently to the diabetes but what is absolutley certain is that the carbs you eat will be metabolised into sugar. The amount will depend on the type of carb and how long it takes to digest it. This can cause you blood sugar to rise if you eat more carbs that your body can handle.

A lot of the membership will sing the praises of a low carb high fat diet, me included. The effect the diet can have on lowering our blood sugars is astounding.

It doesn't agree with all who try it but it's worth looking into even if you choose not to follow it.

Hopefully you will be issued with a meter to allow you to test your levels, but this is not guaranteed but i'd push for access to one so you know how foods affect you and which foods are best avoided.

You will find lots of support here and we have all been where you are currently. Please ask lots of questions theres a lot to take in and it can be quite daunting
 
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miahara

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I would add to what you've read above, that the current standard NHS dietary advice seems to be a few years behind recent research and you'll probably find much better experiential advice here. I did!
 
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@rocker hello and welcome. @daisy1 will post some excellent information for you. I must say I have learned far more from this site from people with first hand experience than from anywhere.
 
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Hello Rocker and welcome. I was diagnosed with type two just over two months ago. I went straight to eating low carb and I recently saw a level of 5.6 mmol/l before my evening meal - I keep going back and looking at it as I was quite chuffed to see it. I usually see levels in the low 7 somethings after meals, so normal numbers. I am hoping to drop down in weight and maintain normal blood glucose levels over time
 
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@rocker

Hello Rocker and welcome to the forum :) As mentioned above, here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Prem51

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Hi @rocker and welcome to the forum. It is a shock when you get that diagnosis and will take a bit of time to get your head around it all. But have a read round the forum and ask anything you want to, the people on here are friendly and supportive.
 

Jogreen21

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Hi rocker,you've come to the right place,the people on here are amazing,you can always count on someone whatever time of the day should you have a problem.Ive had and still have many problems and they've helped me immensely .welcome and good luck x
 

LinziC78

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Hi, and welcome. As a newby too I was confused with diabetes, (just fat people and sugar!) How very wrong.... I am still experimenting with foods and drink and exercise. Only diagnosed about 3 months ago. I am still waiting for my 3 months blood test to check what effect diet is having, monitor would suggest it's worse now than diagnosis, but I know they are not always reliable. I was offered Desmond course and thought it was too soon, but next time I see nurse I will be going on it, other people have said its really good. I don't post or reply often on here but I read alot, there's some good advice, but best advice I've followed is to find out what works for you. Everyone's individual. Good luck on your journey x