new to type 2 diabetes

alodeny

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Hi

I recently find out that I have type 2 diabetes, exactly a week ago. my doctor told me that I should start a diet and recommended 2000 calories per day ( since I am not overweight, I weigh 77 Kg). since that, I read a lots about diabetes (including scientific journals and people experience). however, the more I read the more I got confused. my question is if my intake limitation is 2000 cal, then I can eat anything as long as I can stay within the 2000 cal a day? is that true? or beside the limitation I should avoid many other things like suger, rice and potato ext... I really wish to understand and get explanation.


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13lizanne

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Hello @alodeny and welcome to the forum. I am tagging @daisy1 who will shortly provide you with the information you are asking about. Have a good read of that and then ask as many questions as you want and someone will answer. The link that @Art Of Flowers provided above is worth looking at too. Dont worry, you will soon be an expert on your diabetes care. Good luck!
 

alodeny

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Hello @alodeny and welcome to the forum. I am tagging @daisy1 who will shortly provide you with the information you are asking about. Have a good read of that and then ask as many questions as you want and someone will answer. The link that @Art Of Flowers provided above is worth looking at too. Dont worry, you will soon be an expert on your diabetes care. Good luck!
thank you for the reply.
 

Freema

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welcome here alodeny :)

yes it is almost only the carbs that raises blood glucose... but if one need to loose weight in another atempt to reverse diabetes by getting under ones " personal body-fat-treshold " like for instance what the NewCasttle-diet seems to be able to in some people then the collected amount of calories also do make a difference...
I myself did 6 month on 1000 calories lower carbs initially to gain control.. I have come down in the non-daibetic level almost all the time but unfortunately when now again eating like 300 grams of carbs daily the kg creeps on again and after gaining around 5 kg again from the 36 kg I did loose from being the fattest now my morning blood sugar is on the brim of being diabetic again... so now I am again puling the emergency brake and going lower calories and most of all low carbs daily ...

by going low carbs you can probably get normal blood glucose all the time, but not get rid of insuline resistance...my experience is that if one want to become again less resistant to insuline; weight loss ,endurance exercise and resistance training and weight lifting is the way to go for some people, but that said some are actually already fit when becomming diabetic type 2 and some haven´t hardly got any bodyfat of importance... so no garantee there... but it is working for me... have gained like 3 kg of muscles now in a year which has helped a lot... and hope to gain 1-2 kg more muscle mass this comming year

but we are all very different not all can gain muscle that easy and do that much exercise.....
 
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Freema

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here is a calculator you can use to find what level of proteins and fat you might eat and how much calories..

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/DietMakeupCalc.php

also important to know if one eat very much protein like very much more than the body needs then our liver is able to also transform that excess protein into blood glucose ... therefore it is good to know where ones personal level of ideal protein intake is...

most people with fit muscles need like 1 gram of protein pro kg body-weight so if you weigh 75 kg you need around 70 grams of your protein daily...

1 average egg is around 7 grams of protein for instance that would mean eating like 10 eggs daily to all get the needed protein from just egg..

there is protein also in plants ..
but most concentrated in meats fish and eggs and cheese .. and also the adequate kinds of essential proteins are in these mentioned kinds of sources.


but that said vegetarians do usually get enought protein by combining the kinds of vegetables they eat by eating varied kinds of vegs... so it is also possible to ge the right combination of proteins from vegs..
 
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Freema

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if your try going really low in carbs for some weeks you´ll probably get totally normal blood glucose in just 2 weeks ...
really low carbs is 50 grams of carb or even lower... then you´ll also start burning the bodyfat around your intestines which is a good idea because even slim people can have too much bodyfat around instestines liver and pancreas

if you start by eating breakfast only made of proteins ; like eating eggs or meat , ham and cheese , eggs and bacon , avocado nuts like macadamia nuts peanuts , almonds and coconut , then that meal is a meal that doesn´t raise your blood glucose at all...

there are lots of APPs that can be used to keep track of calories and nutrients.. I use one called "Lifesum" on my iPhone .. I think is is also available for android phones ...
 
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@alodeny

Hello Alodeny and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information which we give to new members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask questions and someone will be able to help as you will have seen already.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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