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Discussion in 'Greetings and Introductions' started by Sugarbaby123, Dec 6, 2017 at 7:18 AM.

  1. Sugarbaby123

    Sugarbaby123 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi there! Had a raised HbA1c at routine screen and a recheck was 50. I have symptoms, thirst and peeing at night. Otherwise I feel ok. So am I going to be diabetic for life? I have an appointment to see the practice nurse on Friday. I’ve started looking into low carb diet, I’ve made a few changes already. Not a lover of sugary stuff but I love bread so I’m a bit upset! Need your help guys to get me through x
     
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  2. Mbaker

    Mbaker Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi @Sugarbab123, welcome to the forum. I am going to tag @daisy1 who will provide key information for you. Whilst “we” can’t say you will not have a label of diabetes, it is possible to reverse the condition or the term remission can be used. Your number is just outside the pre - diabetic range which is > 42. I bet you can get close or lower within 3 to 6 months, as many slash their initial number by circa 50% (although as you are not far off of the normal range your potential drop may be relatively smaller).

    If you need specifics such as food suggestions, just ask (this can save loads of time).
     
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  3. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    We are here for you.
    You have chosen a very indepth diabetes forum for your support.
    Please read @daisy1 's info for newees before you get bombarded with dieting and fasting suggestions this morning. Look around and give yourself a deep breath before very very experienced diabetics fully support the questions you must have.
    Welcome @Sugarbaby123 ! :)
     
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  4. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi and welcome. Diagnosis certainly is scary but there are ways to improve your health now and protect yourself from complications in the future. As has been said, read around the forum and ask as many questions as you like.
     
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  5. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Guru
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    @Sugarbaby123

    Hello Sugarbaby123 and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.



    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 259,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

    Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

    Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
    • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
    • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
     
  6. Sugarbaby123

    Sugarbaby123 Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you. This is very useful. I’m beginning to take carbs more seriously and reduce the portion size. I hope I get reassured on Friday about my blood glucose figures and then I can start monitoring and take control.
     
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    archersuz Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 · Oracle

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    It is almost certain you will have to buy your own meter in order to start monitoring. They are only prescribed to T2s if they are on certain strong diabetes medications or insulin.

    When you see the nurse do ask her for a print out of your test results. These should include any glucose tests, HbA1c, plus cholesterol, lipids, liver and kidney functions etc. We do need to know all these numbers as they are just as important to us and the HbA1c. Being told they are fine isn't good enough. You could well be teetering on the edge of not being fine and will never know until it is too late. If you are in England your test results may well be on line. You can ask about that and how to register for the service.
     
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  9. Sugarbaby123

    Sugarbaby123 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi, I live in Wales and it may be different here, however I plan to buy a blood glucose monitor to know my numbers. I will ask for my test results in full, I won’t be fobbed off by ‘normal’ but thanks for you contribution
     
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    Jay-Marc Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    There are a number of commercially available lower card breads available these days; a recent thread is here discussing some of these but you can find more through searching. They do tend to be a bit seedy in texture and/or dense, which may not be to your taste, but try a few.
     
  11. Phoenix55

    Phoenix55 Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Welcome @Sugarbaby123. Best wishes for tomorrow but if I were you I would start monitoring my food intake as soon as possible. You may be lucky and be given three months to reduce your levels, not likely with Christmas unless you are very restrained. Try a food diary when you get your meter, it will help you to see a pattern with the foods that you eat, some of us can eat some foods without raising our bg, others can not have a sniff of them. Be kind to yourself, you did not do anything to cause this to happen, and even if you did it is done and life must go on, look to the future. If you have questions ask, there is no such thing as a silly question if you really want to know. Together we can beat this problem.
     
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    Kittycat_7_ Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Sugarbaby,
    I've recently being diagnosed, the thirst and peeing a lot will improve as your blood sugars go down.
    I know it's scary, you will get lots of support here.
    My Hbalc was 87 I was started on meds. It's usual to try diet first.
    Try the low carb breads they are quite nice.
    In time you will find out what spikes your blood sugars from monitoring.
    I hope you feel better very soon.
    Take care
     
  13. Sugarbaby123

    Sugarbaby123 Type 2 · Member

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    Thank you all for your kind words and great info. My practice nurse was very kind and not the least judgmental. We agreed a 3 month diet and exercise management plan til my next Hba1c. I'm keeping a food diary for 2 weeks before I see her again. I'm feeling a bit more positive that I can get my sugar down, I'm going to work hard to reverse it, if not keep in as low as poss. It's going to be a challenge over the festive period but if I can do it now, all the better. Cheers!
     
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    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No it isn't she lives in Wales as do I and I was given one. If you get one and it's an Aga Matrix like the one that I given the finger pricker just didn't work on me ie pain but rarely any blood. I've found the code free finger pricker much better.

    I also cannot get my test results on-line (the English and Scottish can) but I can get print outs at 50p per sheet.
     
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    woodywhippet61 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I was given a booklet with my results written in it. BUT not all of them AND for my last set of tests they weren't written down in it. Note to self I really must get the print outs.
     
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