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Is there any advice on eating porridge and kidney beans?
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Are testing your blood sugar levels regularly? If not then that's the first piece of advice. Get a meter then you can test before and 2 hours after eating to see the impact of the meal on your blood sugar. This is how most of us have found out how we react to certain foods. For me porridge and kidney beans ( I dislike both so wouldn't have them anyway) would be a no but you may be able to tolerate them without a big spike.
 

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Is there any advice on eating porridge and kidney beans?
I think the short answer is avoid them!
The longer answer is they are both quite high carbohydrate so not good on a low carb diet but as with all food you need to test and see what they do to your blood sugar level. Test immediately before you start eating, then two hours after your first bite. You're looking for an increase of < 2 mmols/l.
 
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BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

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On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

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The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
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Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
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Is there any advice on eating porridge and kidney beans?
well I wouldn't put them together-lol !
porridge is quite low in GI so will release it's sugars more slowly into the bloodstream. It is still a carb though so you would need to test yourself after eating to see what they do to you BG levels.
Kidney beans are fairly catby too although the ones in water are lower than those in chilli sauce. You could still enjoy a chilli though as you are allowed SOME carbs just skip the rice :)
 
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thank you for all the advice. I will get a meter to test myself tomorrow. I've just come back from a 6 mile run (something i've pushed off from starting for a while). I feel better for it and will continue my fight.
 

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I did get my blood test results yesterday and they're just below 14 mark. I'm back to the doctors on Friday. This week i've ran 6,4,5 miles and have just cyccled to my shop 7 miles. Should I be doing this exercise? Any advice please. My eating has been reduced too. Spinach is my number one friend.
 
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Your result of 14, is that a fasting blood sugar, measured in mmols/l or an *HbA1c as a percentage? Either one they are high and definitely put you in the diabetic range. Did you get yourself a meter? You'll only know if the exercise is helping if you're measuring your glucose levels. I worked up a sweat shortly after diagnosis cutting my hedge on a hot day with shears, it shot my level up. This last weekend I did exactly the same activity on another hot day, same time of day and my level remained stable, Exercise needs to be increased gradually, I was the proverbially couch potato, but have gradually increased walking places instead of jumping in the car!

*NB measuring HbA1c as a percentage is the old unit 'DCCT Aligned'. Most GPs now quote the newer 'IFCC Standardised' which is measure in mmol/ mol
 

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Hi @RDG and Welcome to the Forum :).
 

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Your result of 14, is that a fasting blood sugar, measured in mmols/l or an *HbA1c as a percentage? Either one they are high and definitely put you in the diabetic range. Did you get yourself a meter? You'll only know if the exercise is helping if you're measuring your glucose levels. I worked up a sweat shortly after diagnosis cutting my hedge on a hot day with shears, it shot my level up. This last weekend I did exactly the same activity on another hot day, same time of day and my level remained stable, Exercise needs to be increased gradually, I was the proverbially couch potato, but have gradually increased walking places instead of jumping in the car!

*NB measuring HbA1c as a percentage is the old unit 'DCCT Aligned'. Most GPs now quote the newer 'IFCC Standardised' which is measure in mmol/ mol
73 mmol - I went for a run this morning (5 miles) it's more of a slow walk. Since then i've had some left hand side chest pain. I went the dr and got prescribed Ramipril 2.5mg. I've had conflicting reports on them, but i collected them from the chemists.

Mentally it's a tough day for me because I can feel things happening inside that I don't know the consequences, but still cracking on with eating properly. i will however be doing a walk tomorrow rather than run. The meter is on it's way
 

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I've just joined because my doctor told be that I had DB2 yesterday and prescribed me Metformin 500mg. I'm 50 years old and have read up on line previously and have read threads on here. My gut instinct is to tackle it without taking Metformin. I've done it before ie change my lifestyle - diet and exercise to lose weight (without diabetes) - and i'm sure that I can do it again. I don't have my readings. Does anybody have any advice that they can give me?
I have heard about people changing their diet and had a positive affect
 

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Changing your diet should give you the most benefit. Exercise is also a good thing. I'd look at making changes to your life style that you can keep forever rather than short term things that will burn you out.
 

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I just wanted to update this post because I got the results through today for a recent blood test, that came back as normal. Which is great news for me! I must say that when i was first prescribed with D2 I wasn't in a good place. Changing my life has been instrumental in the results. I generally eat porridge with berries, strawberry & bananas for breakfast, snack on an apple or nakd orange bar, chicken breast with spinach maybe 1/2 sweet potato, snack on kiwi fruit and then have fish, courgettes, broccoli for tea. I may roast some veg every now and again. I snack on toasted pumpkin seeds and hazelnuts. I've lost almost 3 stones mainly through diet because when i was running my blood pressure shot through the roof. I've just recently started running again but i'm taking it a bit easier. I rejected metformin, which was my choice. I know that i've got to keep working at it, but i feel a lot better today than i did 5 months ago. Thanks alot to the site because it's been very informative