Newbie Type 2 BG Question

scottyjohn

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
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Tablets (oral)
Hi all,
I have a family history of Type 2, and have been tested a few times in my past and was always described as having slightly elevated BG levels but nothing to worry about.
Had a medical a few weeks ago and too much G in urine, so off to GP for a BG test. Fasting test, canrt remember the results, but GP assured me I was definitely Type 2, and at a level I would need tablets. Im booked to attend their Diabetes Clinic tomorrow, but since last Wednesday when I got the call, Ive been running a low carb diet, about 1500 cals a day with about 70 -100g of carbs per day.
I purchased a BG meter today after a lot of reading and went with the Accu-Chek mobile which seems really easy to use. I had some breakfast about 0930 and about 1230 I took a reading and it was 6.5. Waited about 2.5 hours after I had lunch, and its reading 7.2.
Just wanted to see how bad these readings are, in prep for my clinic tomorrow? Any advice much appreciated
 

Bluetit1802

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Did you also test before you ate?

You really need to do this as it is the rise from before to after that matters, and to be truly meaningful the "after" test should be 2 hours after first bite. Without knowing what you were before you ate and a 2 hour level, it is hard to answer your question.

Are you also keeping a food diary including portion sizes? If you do and if you record your levels alongside, you will see at a glance what that food has done to your levels and be able to reduce portion size or eliminate something. After a week or two patterns will emerge.

You need to know what your diagnostic test results were, not just glucose but any other tests you had such as cholesterol, lipids, liver & kidney functions etc. These are all important numbers for diabetics. You can ask for a print out of these results.

I also use the Accu Chek Mobile. An excellent piece of equipment - but the replacement strip cartridges are very expensive.
 

scottyjohn

Member
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
So I went to the doc today and got some more blood taken for liver etc, and mentioned Id bought a meter, and he more or less said dont test??
Turns out my BG last week was 10.5 in the morning having fasted. And my HbA1c was 58, and this is what sparked him to tell me I was at a level where I would need meds.
However I had been testing yesterday and this morning and when I told him I was 6.5 before lunch, 7.2 after, then 6.6 before dinner, and 9.0 after, and given I have reasonably good lifestyle etc, he said I will be left alone for 3 months managing with diet only. So Im kind of relieved that Im not getting meds, but wanted to know peoples opinions about checking BG levels?
 

Bluetit1802

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You can safely ignore your doctor when he says don't test. I'm afraid most of us are told this. It isn't because it is dangerous or inadvisable, it is because if doctors encouraged testing they would be obliged to prescribe the tools to do it with, and they aren't allowed to do this apart from exceptional circumstances and for those on insulin. Testing is the only way to control this disease and learn which foods your body can or can't cope with. How else could you learn this? At a glance you can see what a particular meal has done to your levels, and can act on this information. Without testing, you are working blind.

It is a great idea to keep a detailed food diary, including portion sizes, and record your before and after levels alongside. This way patterns will emerge and you can learn such a lot. It is best to keep any rise from before to after at under 2mmol/l (preferably a lot less). More than 2mmol/l and there were too many carbs on your plate, so you need to adjust the portion size or eliminate something.

If you eat to what your meter tells you, you will do well.
 

Rachox

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I reversed my Type 2
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I was diagnosed 3 months ago with an HbA1c of 70. I found this forum and reduced it to 45 in nine weeks. I did accept tablets with an aim to get levels to the non diabetic range, then consider reducing or coming off the tablets. I also adopted a low carb diet, starting on a limit of 100g/days, but more recently 50-70g/day. I also started self testing. Most GPS will say don't test but how are you supposed to know what foods affect your blood sugar? I think it's mainly a money thing as they don't want to have to prescribe the strips and lancets. Carry on testing, I test on waking, just as I start eating a meal then 2 hours after first bite and at bedtime. You're looking for 4-7mmols/l before meals and no higher than 8.5 after, but also no rise of more than 2 from pre meal to post meal.
I think it is quite possible to bring yours down with diet and testing.
I'll tag in @daisy1 who'll provide loads of useful info.
 

daisy1

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@scottyjohn

Hello ScottyJohn and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information for new members which is mentioned above and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 250,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

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