newly diagnosed and need advice!

jmorell1989

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hi i'm john

i have been recently told im diabetic type 2 which has came as a massive shock to me as i'm only 23. I'm looking for some advice with dieting and just living with it . what to look out for and what to do.

thanx

John
 

daisy1

Legend
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
Cruelty towards animals.
Hi John and welcome to the forum :)

This is the advice we give to new members and I think you will find it contains the sort of information you are looking for. Ask all the questions you want as there is always someone who will help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

penn

Newbie
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Hi I'm Penny I was diagnosed last with type 2 I am also looking for any advise not sure what exercise I am supposed to take been thinking about swimming . I am also finding it difficult to get my head around what to eat.
I am seeing the diabetes nurse tomorrow so hope things will become clearer then.

Happy new year to all
 
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6,107
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
To try and give some answer to both of you I will tell you what my nurse said.

"Road diggers and marathon runners can eat what they like but couch potatoes can't".

This suggests to me that there is no limit to what or how much exercise you take but you must get off your posterior. Young people can usually find things to do but the old, if able, should not do less than take a walk each day.

The frequent advice on here is to eat food, test the blood sugar level two hours later and modify that meal the next time you have it if your number is greater than 8.5. There is no simple advice since everyone's case is different.

The foods most likely to give you high blood sugar are sugar, flour, rice and potato. You may not react badly to all of them so use the meter to find out.
 

Daibell

Master
Messages
12,652
Type of diabetes
LADA
Treatment type
Insulin
Hi John. Are you normal weight? If so, I would query the diagnosis of T2. Having T2 at age 22 is very unusual as most diabetes of the young is T1 or late onset T1 (LADA). The treatment regime may be similar at first but T1s may progress faster. Do get hold of a blood sugar meter and check your sugars around 2 hours after a meal as Squire Fulwood has said. If they read quite high and continue to go higher despite a low-carb diet and exercise then do go back to the surgery. For both Penn and yourself follow the links Daisy has given and control your carb intake and keep them high fibre and low-GI where you can. Do 'eat to the meter' as others have said. Any form of exercise is good but some exercise each day is good. I go to the gym 3 times a week and spend up to an hour on the jogger or resistance machines, but you must find what suits you best.
 

jmorell1989

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Im just slightly over weight. But even doc said she couldnt believe it was to do with my weight. Ive got upteen appointments coming up from gp to dietician. And im going to get reffered to hospital due to my age. Whats th best machine to get to check my blood sugar levels? Thank you



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Messages
6,107
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
jmorell1989 said:
I Whats th best machine to get to check my blood sugar levels? Thank you

I have only tested two machines so I will tell you what I found.

The most accurate was the Abbott Freestyle Freedom Lite in that having got the strength of the test solutions from Abbott it was right on the nose in the low range and pretty close in the high range. The test strips are expensive and the NHS are reluctant to issue them unless you are on something stronger than Metformin.

The cheapest to run, if you have to buy your own strips, is the SD Codefree however testing it on a known solution showed that it always tested 1 mmol/l high and got worse in the higher ranges. Nevertheless, extreme accuracy is not the most important thing if you know how far out your machine is.

My surgery uses the Freedom Lite so when I use the SD I knock one unit off the reading so that the nurse does not panic and start issuing tablets.