Newly diagnosed...confused, where do I start?

ossettwhites

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Hi everyone.

I've recently been diagnosed with prediabetes after a blood test for something totally unrelated.

Apparently my HbA1c level hit 42 but my doctor was rather vague about what I need to do...all she said was that I need to make changes to my lifestyle and eating/drinking habits but that was it. She did imply that as the HbA1c test covered the 3 months over Christmas may have had an impact, with att the rich foods that tend to get eaten.

I'm a 52 year old guy, a little overweight but not obese. I'm not a heavy drinker, very rarely drinking more than 10/12 units per week and am not a lover of biscuits or chocolate. My only real vice is crisps, but even then, not to an excess.

I realise I've been sedantary over winter but as spring is approaching I'll soon be out and about in my allotment, allowing me to get loads of aerobic exercise.

Can anyone give me some pointers on what I can do to get my HbA1c levels below 42 or is 42 something that I souldn't be too worried about? I've tried reading up online but there is so much information that I'm confusing myself.
 

Alison Campbell

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Hi from another prediabetic of 6 years although up and down this year my bloods have come back as just at the high end of normal HBA1C 40.

It is really great they have caught you early and you are here to learn more.

As diabetes runs in my family, I also avoided sugar products but I would have larger portons of carbohydrates such as potatoes, bread, pasta, rice not realisng that this was just as bad.

Tagging @daisy1 for newbie information which really helped me get a grip. I really recommend getting a blood glucose monitor so that you can see the effect some foods may have on your sugar levels. Please read around the forum and ask loads of questions.
 
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Prem51

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Hi @ossettwhites and welcome to the forum. On the HbA1c (ifcc) scale, under 42 is non-diabetic, 42-47 is pre-diabetic, and 48 and above is diabetic. So your reading of 42 is in the pre-diabetic range. It might be due to the Xmas excesses, but it would be best to take it as a warning and adapt your diet to avoid becoming diabetic. You really don't want to go there if you can help it.
Obviously you need to avoid sweet sugary stuff, but you also need to avoid or at least limit starchy carbohydrates as these turn to sugar in our bodies.
The main culprits are potatoes, bread, pasta, rice and beer (we call it liquid bread).
 

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@ossettwhites

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

jts905

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"...there is so much information that I'm confusing myself..."

Good that you are paying attention at an early stage. Looking at my test results (save them!) I was in the 49-43 A1C range for years, the doctor did not make a big deal of it, I ignored it out of ignorance. Most recent test A1C was 45, close enough to a diabetes diagnosis it jolted me to pay attention.

Regarding the information confusion, you will be able to find recommendations and studies to justify just about any course of action you want to follow. Very frustrating, but put some time into it and set your own goals for A1C and BG levels.

I do believe the earlier you start making changes the larger your solution space, that is to say you can probably make small changes now (exercise, diet) that will save you from having to make more drastic changes later. My suggestion would be to get a BG monitor and begin testing 1 and 2 hours after meals to see what foods cause the highest spikes, and consider reducing or eliminating them from your diet.

Right now I made dietary changes so my 1 hour (post meal) numbers are generally below 5.6 and my 2 hour numbers are generally below 5.0. (when I started testing I discovered I was routinely eating meals resulting in numbers in the 8's). There is a lot of good information on this and other diabetes forums, coming from people who have much more experience and knowledge than I do...take advantage of it!
 
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Art Of Flowers

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A HbA1C of 42 is only just pre-diabetes - see http://www.diabetes.co.uk/what-is-hba1c.html

I think you need to be careful your blood sugar does not increase. Some tips are to carefully check the labels of all the foods you eat. The carbohydrate and sugar percentages can be quite high. I was shocked to find my "healthy" breakfast cereal was 24% sugar. Reduce the amount of bread, cereal, rice, potatoes, pasta you eat and maybe cut out orange juice as that has a lot of sugar.

If you cut back on your sugar and carbohydrates then your HbA1C levels will drop as lots of people on here can testify.
 
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