Newly diagnosed

woodywhippet61

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Hi. Boy am I confused and in a muddle. I had a fasting blood test on 2nd July, heard nothing, I have tinitus so phoned the GP surgery to make an appointment about that and was told by the receptionist that I had to go back and have a repeat fasting blood test. But not worry about this as I didn't need to rush and could have it done over the next few months.

I go in to see the GP who announces that I am diabetic. My HBA1c was 67 and BG? 10. But not to worry about it at all just make an appointment to see the Diabetic Nurse after having the repeat blood test. So I leave the doctors having been told to read up on the low GI diet (the gp lost weight on it) and that I could sort out my type 2 diabetes with exercise and diet.

I have my repeat fasting blood tests done and when I phone the surgery 2 days later to find out the results there has been a technical problem and every blood test done on that Wednesday need to be repeated. My appointment with the Diabetic Nurse is cancelled as she needs the results of the blood test before seeing me. I have another fasting blood test booked for next Wednesday and an appointment to finally see the Diabetic Nurse on the 27th.

I have invested in a freestyle libre and so far my readings have been between 7.2 and 17.9. Apart from these readings I know nothing.
 

AM1874

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Hi @woodywhippet61 .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here .. I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb and, like you, I was a bit shell-shocked with no information and no idea of what was happening to me. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

Managing and controlling your diabetes (or pre-diabetes) through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Hope this helps
 
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keitjones

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Welcome woodywhippet. I was diagnosed 1st Jan17. Like others it was a roller coaster of emotion for me. But have been very encouraged by others on this forum.

The key thing, I personally believe, with the right diet and exercise you can reverse this.

Nice to meet you
 

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@woodywhippet61

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to reply to you.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Prem51

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Welcome to the forum @woodywhippet61. It is confusing when you first get that diagnosis, and lots of figures thrown at you without much explanation or support. Unfortunately it's not uncommon. You have done well to find this forum, you will get a lot of good advice and support on here.
It's great that you have got the Freestyle Libre which will help you to identify which foods raise your blood sugar levels. Your readings of 7.2-17.9 are quite high and you should be aiming to lower them. It is sugar and starchy carbohydrates which raise our bs. Carbohydrates turn to sugar in our bodies. You should note what your bs level is before eating, then at one hour, then two hours after eating, along with a diary of what you have eaten. That will help you identify which foods spike your bs levels, so you can avoid them'
The main culprits are bread, potatoes. pasta, rice and beer. A lot of us on here have found that adopting a Low Carbohydrate High Fat (LCHF) approach to eating has reduced our bs levels. Have a read round the threads to see how this works, and ask any questions you want to.
 

Prem51

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Hi @Winterk and welcome to the forum. The TEE2 is free and comes with 10 test strips. Buying more strips costs £7.75 for 50 iirc. if you buy them from the manufacturer, spirithealthcare. If you do order strips remember to tick the box to say you are diabetic and you won't pay VAT.
 
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AM1874

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Hi @Winterk .. and welcome
You have made two good moves today ..

Firstly, you have come to this forum, where you will soon get all the support and advice that you need. I have tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

Secondly, you have decided to get yourself a test meter. You have already received some helpful info about this from @Prem51 and the following websites might also help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

Unless you are prescribed a meter and test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on the cost of your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. there are no discounts currently available for bulk buys
I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 

AM1874

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Hi @Winterk ..
I have just replied to your post about test meters (above) but then I realised that your post and my reply are in the middle of the thread "Newly Diagnosed", started by @woodywhippet61 earlier this morning. This is not really a problem but it's probably easier and less likely to cause confusion if you start your own thread to ask your question ..
 

Hammer1964

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Hi. Boy am I confused and in a muddle. I had a fasting blood test on 2nd July, heard nothing, I have tinitus so phoned the GP surgery to make an appointment about that and was told by the receptionist that I had to go back and have a repeat fasting blood test. But not worry about this as I didn't need to rush and could have it done over the next few months.

I go in to see the GP who announces that I am diabetic. My HBA1c was 67 and BG? 10. But not to worry about it at all just make an appointment to see the Diabetic Nurse after having the repeat blood test. So I leave the doctors having been told to read up on the low GI diet (the gp lost weight on it) and that I could sort out my type 2 diabetes with exercise and diet.

I have my repeat fasting blood tests done and when I phone the surgery 2 days later to find out the results there has been a technical problem and every blood test done on that Wednesday need to be repeated. My appointment with the Diabetic Nurse is cancelled as she needs the results of the blood test before seeing me. I have another fasting blood test booked for next Wednesday and an appointment to finally see the Diabetic Nurse on the 27th.

I have invested in a freestyle libre and so far my readings have been between 7.2 and 17.9. Apart from these readings I know nothing.

Hi Woodywhippet61, I was diagnosed around 4th April and I hated the world, in denial, I wanted someone to take charge of my life, tell me what I could and couldn't eat, wanted it all to go away. My HbA1c was 78 and I felt rubbish but now 31/2 months on my HbA1c is 44, I feel so much better, eating much more healthier and have discovered new recipes = life is good and I am alive. Things will get better and easier for you, this site is amazing and has helped me so much but you do have to want to do it, it won't happen on its own.
Good luck
 

woodywhippet61

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Sorry to have taken so long to reply to you all and thank you for replying I did read them just couldn't reply. Since my first post I've had another fasting blood test which was 6.6 and I've now seen a diabetic nurse. I see the nurse again in 3 weeks. I am not on any meds (good) but she doesn't believe that I can keep my bg in range so will need to go on them. I have my next A1c, liver function and cholesterol test in 3 months. Just munching some almonds. Off to do more reading on Low Carb diets.
 

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Sorry to have taken so long to reply to you all and thank you for replying I did read them just couldn't reply. Since my first post I've had another fasting blood test which was 6.6 and I've now seen a diabetic nurse. I see the nurse again in 3 weeks. I am not on any meds (good) but she doesn't believe that I can keep my bg in range so will need to go on them. I have my next A1c, liver function and cholesterol test in 3 months. Just munching some almonds. Off to do more reading on Low Carb diets.

When you see her again ask for a 3 month trial on diet only if you don't want to take meds. 6.6 isn't at all bad.