Prediabetes and Changing lifestyle

Sam5350

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Prediabetes
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Hello,

I am new to the forum. I was told 4years ago i was prediabetic and did nothing about it. I admit. Despite having lost my fiance to diabetes i thought i am fine. Today i went to the GP after having fasting blood test done. My HbA1c was 50...diabetic range i was told but my blood glucose was 5.8. They confirmed prediabetes but warned me if i dont change i will be diabetic in a very short space of time. Very upset....though i shouldn't be really...i knew 4 years ago this could happen.
However, yesterday i started a change of lifestyle...mediterranean low carb diet. I am on day 2 but after this morning i feel like comfort eating. But i am determined not to. I also joined the gym through work which starts 1st April.
I have no idea how things will go but it has been interesting reading some of the threads here...motivational...thank you.

Sam
 

DevonVee

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You will get carb cravings. Then you may feel grotty for a while as your body adjusts to low carb. Find some nice treats such as nuts, berries and cream to get you through that phase. But do persist. It will be worth it.
 
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Bluetit1802

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Hello,

I am new to the forum. I was told 4years ago i was prediabetic and did nothing about it. I admit. Despite having lost my fiance to diabetes i thought i am fine. Today i went to the GP after having fasting blood test done. My HbA1c was 50...diabetic range i was told but my blood glucose was 5.8. They confirmed prediabetes but warned me if i dont change i will be diabetic in a very short space of time. Very upset....though i shouldn't be really...i knew 4 years ago this could happen.
However, yesterday i started a change of lifestyle...mediterranean low carb diet. I am on day 2 but after this morning i feel like comfort eating. But i am determined not to. I also joined the gym through work which starts 1st April.
I have no idea how things will go but it has been interesting reading some of the threads here...motivational...thank you.

Sam

Hi Sam and welcome,

I find your diagnosis a little strange because the HbA1c cut off for full blown diabetes is anything over 47. Your doctor should have followed this up with another HbA1c test to confirm it. The blood glucose test on its own is pre-diabetic, but with the HbA1c as well, it needs confirmation. It should be been confirmed one way or another.

Well done for starting your lifestyle change, and please keep motivated. You know only too well what can happen if you let this slide, and I am so sorry to hear of your fiance.

If you don't have your own blood glucose meter I suggest you buy one as soon as possible - they are essential in controlling this condition.
 
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Growyourflow

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Hello,

I am new to the forum. I was told 4years ago i was prediabetic and did nothing about it. I admit. Despite having lost my fiance to diabetes i thought i am fine. Today i went to the GP after having fasting blood test done. My HbA1c was 50...diabetic range i was told but my blood glucose was 5.8. They confirmed prediabetes but warned me if i dont change i will be diabetic in a very short space of time. Very upset....though i shouldn't be really...i knew 4 years ago this could happen.
However, yesterday i started a change of lifestyle...mediterranean low carb diet. I am on day 2 but after this morning i feel like comfort eating. But i am determined not to. I also joined the gym through work which starts 1st April.
I have no idea how things will go but it has been interesting reading some of the threads here...motivational...thank you.

Sam
Sam,
Welcome to the forum! I too am relatively new and have recently been diagnosed as prediabetic 6.1%/110. I feel like I'm being pulled towards a black hole! I work out, monitor my diet- I really watch my sugar levels but it's almost heartbreaking the lack of management tools/Support systems available for Pre-diabetics. Do you take any type of supplements or go outside of the box in your attempts to avoid diabetes and lead a healthier life?
 
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Alison Campbell

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Hi @Sam5350, welcome to the forum.

I have been prediabetic for 6 years now although with mostly just into the normal range of HBA1Cs. As you can see from my signature, I have been up and down. My best year was when I was out of work for 13 months due to redundancy. I lost 6 stone and walked the dog a lot that year. Unfortunately had to get back to work and have a long while yet to retirement.

Have you seen @daisy1 's post. This helped me so much, especially the information about testing.
 
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Art Of Flowers

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I reversed my Type 2
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Between Jan and Apr last year I was attempting to lose weight, but my weight stayed the same. However, when I cut out the carbs last Dec I found is was very easy to lose weight and reduce my blood sugar. The good thing about the LCHF (low carb high fat) diet is that it doesn't take a huge amount of willpower to keep going, so I do not expect to put all the weight back on again. I have lost about 10Kg since this time last year. I have another 10Kg to go to be no longer overweight. I hope to get there by the end of this year. I also aim to get my HbA1C down to the normal range by the end of the year.
 
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AM1874

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Hi @Sam5350
You have joined an extremely welcoming, informative and friendly forum .. so, ask your questions and you can be confident that you will get the answers that you need.
To tighten up on your diet, it may be worth checking out the info on the Low Carb Diet forum
Also the following websites ...
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
Low Carb 10-week Programme
If you are planning to test your BG levels, you may find the following links helpful ...
Check the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter
and at: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
Hope this helps
 
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@Sam5350

Hello Sam and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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Sam5350

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Messages
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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Hi Sam and welcome,

I find your diagnosis a little strange because the HbA1c cut off for full blown diabetes is anything over 47. Your doctor should have followed this up with another HbA1c test to confirm it. The blood glucose test on its own is pre-diabetic, but with the HbA1c as well, it needs confirmation. It should be been confirmed one way or another.

Well done for starting your lifestyle change, and please keep motivated. You know only too well what can happen if you let this slide, and I am so sorry to hear of your fiance.

If you don't have your own blood glucose meter I suggest you buy one as soon as possible - they are essential in controlling this condition.

The GP said my HbA1C was in diabetic range but my blood glucose was in prediabetic. I told her i had started low carb diet she said to retest in 3months.....its all confusing to me.
 

Sam5350

Active Member
Messages
31
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Sam,
Welcome to the forum! I too am relatively new and have recently been diagnosed as prediabetic 6.1%/110. I feel like I'm being pulled towards a black hole! I work out, monitor my diet- I really watch my sugar levels but it's almost heartbreaking the lack of management tools/Support systems available for Pre-diabetics. Do you take any type of supplements or go outside of the box in your attempts to avoid diabetes and lead a healthier life?

No nothing else yet. I dont know what else there is tbh.
 

Sam5350

Active Member
Messages
31
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
@Sam5350

Hello Sam and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask questions when you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.

Thank you for the info.
 

Sam5350

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Does or did anyone have palpitations during initial week?

Very tired and little dizzy too.
 

Bluetit1802

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The GP said my HbA1C was in diabetic range but my blood glucose was in prediabetic. I told her i had started low carb diet she said to retest in 3months.....its all confusing to me.

3 months is the usual gap between diagnosis and first review test. Hopefully you can get all your levels down and avoid a diagnosis.
 
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Grannie75

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Hi Sam, I too am reasonably new to this amazing forum and have been a member since Jan this year. I had a HbA1c 45 so the high end of Pre Diabetes. I changed on to the Low Carb High Fat diet and with the correct amount of fat found I was never hungry, so now I only have 2 meals a day ( brunch around 11.30 and dinner around 6.30) I find I do not need more food and actually eat to the clock and not my stomach. In 3 months of this lifestyle my HbA1c has dropped to 38 and I have lost a stone in weight, so well worth sticking with it.
I am now in Ketosis ( very low carb) and worked my way through 'Carb Flu' and recently Keto Rash ( a very itchy rash caused by being in the very low carb and very high fat ranges) the rash comes and goes but I feel the results are worth a little itching.
Please stick with it as the members of this forum are very knowledgeable and will help you every step of the way as they did me. I have asked so many questions and received so much help that I doubt if I could have done it without the confidence offered here.
Good Luck
 

AtkinsMo

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Does or did anyone have palpitations during initial week?

Very tired and little dizzy too.
You need to up your salt, drink a cup of stock (you can just make it with a stock cube and water - or if you want to be really good, make your own with bones, veg and a good helping of natural sea salt.). This diet is naturally diuretic, so if you don't up your salt your body preserves the Sodium and instead excretes Potassium, and that's what gives these weird symptoms. Also try to up your fluids a bit.

It's a common problem but easily resolved.
 
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Chook

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The only good thing about carb flu is that you know you are doing low carb right. :) So stick with it, it doesn't last forever.

As others have said, treat yourself to the things you can eat - nuts, double cream in your coffee, cheese, delicatessen meats (but check the carbs), avocado with lime juice or salt. I think I got through carb flu eating salami spread with cream cheese and boiled eggs topped with a dollop of Hellmans, Not the best nutritionally - but carb flu doesn't last long.

Another thing that I found helpful was salt - either drinking Bovril or eating a little extra sprinking of seasalt on my food. There is an amazing amount of hidden salt (and sugars) in pre-prepared foods like bread, ready-meals and breakfast cereals which you won't be getting any more.
 
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jonbvn

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Hi Sam, I too am reasonably new to this amazing forum and have been a member since Jan this year. I had a HbA1c 45 so the high end of Pre Diabetes. I changed on to the Low Carb High Fat diet and with the correct amount of fat found I was never hungry, so now I only have 2 meals a day ( brunch around 11.30 and dinner around 6.30) I find I do not need more food and actually eat to the clock and not my stomach. In 3 months of this lifestyle my HbA1c has dropped to 38 and I have lost a stone in weight, so well worth sticking with it.
I am now in Ketosis ( very low carb) and worked my way through 'Carb Flu' and recently Keto Rash ( a very itchy rash caused by being in the very low carb and very high fat ranges) the rash comes and goes but I feel the results are worth a little itching.
Please stick with it as the members of this forum are very knowledgeable and will help you every step of the way as they did me. I have asked so many questions and received so much help that I doubt if I could have done it without the confidence offered here.
Good Luck
Grannie75,

Can you elucidate regarding the keto rash, since I think I may have it. Extremely itchy.....