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Prof Tim Noakes

Discussion in 'Type 2 Diabetes' started by lindisfel, Jun 12, 2016.

  1. ME_Valentijn

    ME_Valentijn · Guest

    Try to focus on what's around and behind the Raquel Welch poster instead. Based on careful reading of Stephen King novels, I can assure you that the poster is definitely on the cell wall of a jail which is run by sadists. Behind the poster is a tunnel leading to a sewer filled with the usual things found in a sewer. And beyond that ... rural Maine :wideyed:

    She might look cute, but she leads to horrible, horrible places :D
     
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  2. srobertson06

    srobertson06 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Watched most of it but video stopped working before it had completely finished but found it very interesting and good to know people are questioning the way forward for us all.
     
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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Part 77 - Deposition by Dr Caryn Zinn, Whole-food dietitian and nutritionist:

     
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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Part 78 - Deposition by Dr Caryn Zinn, Whole-food dietitian and nutritionist:

     
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  5. LucySW

    LucySW Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    Anyone know when the hearing stops and when verdict is given?
     
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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Early April I think.

    Correction: April 3-4 for final arguments and April 21 for ruling.
     
  7. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    A recent long interview with Prof Noakes for those interested:

     
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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The verdict is in - from Marika Sboros' Twitter coverage: HPCSA has not proven that @ ProfTimNoakes was acting as a MD or gave medical advice. At worst TN's info was confusing and unclear. Committee finds @ ProfTimNoakes NOT GUILTY.

    [​IMG]
     
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  11. AtkinsMo

    AtkinsMo Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Hip hip hooray! Let's hope they award damages!
     
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  12. lindisfel

    lindisfel · Well-Known Member

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    Seems like the court gives a ruling like Scottish law. I think not proven is a little grudging in view of all the unnecessary flak he has taken. Therefore they seem to given both not proven and not guilty? D.
     
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    Salvia Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again, @Indy51 for your timely update info - always very much appeciated.

    So glad to hear this result, though, in my mind, it could never be anything else really. I have been wondering how they would fudge their response sufficiently to "save face" for the dietitians; they appear to have achieved that quite well (assuming that Marika Sboros' tweet is taken from the wording of their decision). I didn't find his initial reponse in the tweet confusing or unclear - particularly as his conversation with the mother was cut short abruptly with the assertion that 'you've gone too far this time' (or whatever it was that dietitian said - can't remember exactly right now).

    I agree with @lindisfel above, the decision does appear to be a little grudging.
    Did they say anything about the unprofessional conduct element?


    edit: typo
     
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    #233 Salvia, Apr 21, 2017 at 2:44 PM
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  14. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Salvia Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Bumping this up the list, as it appears some people have missed the original thread, and there are now 2-3 on the go - though, probably is good to have a range of info sources about this very important case. :)

    On the plus side, we can only hope that the publicity that has been around Tim Noakes and the trial will reap rewards - it's unlikely that lchf would have got so much air-time and advertising so quickly.


    edit: typo
     
  18. Indy51

    Indy51 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    And wouldn't you know it - now some uptight dietitian in NZ has raised a FOI enquiry about how Prof Grant Schofield was appointed by the Ministry of Education to advise on children's health:

    "Dear Ministry of Education,
    Dr Schofield's research interests include areas of nutrition controversy, and he makes public statements that are in conflict with the current Ministry of Health recommendations on Diet and Nutrition. I am concerned this is going to result in greater confusion for the public and poorer health outcomes due to a lack of coordinated effort on childhood obesity


    1) Please can you provide me with the document outlining the scope and remit of the Chief Education Health and Nutrition Advisor?
    2) Please can you provide the documentation outlining the process followed in the appointment of Dr Schofield to this role.
    3) Please can you advise which organisation with interest in either child health or nutrition were consulted by the Ministry of Education as part of the process of making the appointment to this position?
    4) What processes are being initiated by the Ministry of Education to ensure that any work done on childhood health and nutrition is done to create a synergy between the work of the Ministry of Health and this new role in Ministry of Education?


    Yours faithfully,

    Helen Gibbs
    New Zealand Registered Dietitian"
     
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  20. LucySW

    LucySW Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    So glad it's all over Indy. Thank goodness. What a man.
     
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