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Question about Dads driving

Discussion in 'Driving and DVLA' started by Lulu9101112, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I seemed to miss you out somehow. (I'm in England not Wales) but I do get what you mean. I know what can happen. Even though my dad does it. Also i can't exactly not get in my dad's car because for example if we're going for dinner I can't miss dinner as I can't skip a meal because of my blood sugar. I've told him loads of time but he doesnt want to watch these videos or stop or give mobile to me. I just hope one day before something bad happens he'll get stopped by police if he doesn't stop.
    ps however I did decide to cancel the trip to Wales we were going to do because I don't trust my dad on a 3-4 hour drive and I can easily go by train later the month.
    Using mobile puts yourself at risk, your passengers at risk and if it caused an accident it's like waisting emergency services time kind of because it could all be prevented.
     
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  2. JTL

    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No I didn't think you were in Wales.
    I'm using Wales as an example because the roads are fast and bendy and there have been a lot of accidents here because of phones. Some people have taken the law into their own hands when it's been seen near kids and schools and parks and shopping and so on.
    Been a few slappings and lots of reportings.
    He needs ostracising from the community.
    He needs to know he's as bad as a drink driver.
    Tell him from me I think he's an immature idiot who thinks .... it won't happen to me because I'm a really good driver.
    Irresponsible prick who's a danger to us all..
     
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  3. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    (a few months ago i read a news article a public bus ended up swerving to avoid a driver using there mobile and bus ended up hitting a pedestrian and injuring two people i think on the bus. (But luckily didn't kill them). The car driver got away somehow. and a last year a similar thing happend but the bus swerved to avoid a distracted driver (probably on mobile) ended up hitting another car and pedestrian killing both the car driver and pedestrian. Both the public buses at the time happend to be the bus i get to college sometimes but these things both happend at the weekend. So i wasn't on the bus luckily those days. Like it would of been worse if it was on a school day as this happend by my college and there's also a secondary school close by.
    I also remember one day i was collecting my diabeties prescription walking on the pavement and this car driver was obviously distracted as it managed to drive like halfway on the pavement and road. (Luckily it just missed me as i was on the other half of pavement. So bassically it nearly hit me but didn't. (I almost said something but didn't as you don't want it to escalatle)
    It drove off quickly afterwads so i didn't see it's number plate in time.

    What does ostracising mean?
    Yeah it's actually been shown here your twice as likely to crash using you phone whilst driving compared to drink driving although there each as bad
     
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    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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  5. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea.
    Just a welcome to North Wales which has very dangerous roads already without the added burden of people driving whilst using a phone.
    Probably a foreign driver who forgot which side of the road to be on who knows.
     
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    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Ok
    I doubt he would foreign as most foreign drivers know to drive on the right side you can easily tell by the flow of traffic. SO he's obviously distracted or drunk driving
     
  8. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I''ve only just noitced this but on motorways where the max speed limit is 60-70 (i think correct me if i'm wrong) my dad always likes to go between 75-80 which is speeding. Like today when we went to the bowling. My dad was doing this on the main motorway but then slowed down when he saw a police car and the traffic lights turned red so he didn't get caught.
    So the phones not the only problem :
     
  9. Salvia

    Salvia Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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    Well, your dad certainly gives the lie to the phrase "teenage tearaway". It's the sort of driving that is often ascribed to newly-qualified youngsters in the 18-22 age bracket, eager and anxious to show off their 'prowess' (or something ;))

    He's not having a personal crisis of some kind, is he? Looking for his lost youth or affirmation that he's still capable of seeking & enjoying thrills and excitement or danger?

    Seems to me there's only one option - and that is to refuse to get into the car when he is driving, so that he knows just how seriously concerned you are about his behaviour . Difficult, I know, and will probably cause family arguments, but I'd prefer to have a row than to have a coffin. The alternative could be that one day he, or you, or both will be saying "I wish ....." "I wish ....."


    p.s. Earlier you said something about having to go with your dad because of needing to eat. Understandable, but is it not possible to get a taxi, public transport? Or you could just use blackmail and tell him that because of his behaviour you will have to go without food, and could have a hypo, and that would be his fault. Or some variation on this that could, hopefully, achieve a good result. (i.e. improvement in his driving behaviour)
     
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  10. JTL

    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    There are no traffic lights on motorways so I'm guessing you were on a dual carriageway.
    I think we're all guilty of speeding.
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    What a horrible human being!
    So sorry to read this RRB. You are right there is no excuse. In the case you quote above the guy should have gone to prison for murder. It wasn't manslaughter because he had been caught doing the same thing again and again and still persisted in offending. He knew the risks and was happy to kill whilst using a phone. Until the law changes to give realistic punishments for such repeat offenders these deaths will keep on happening. We all make mistakes but hopefully most of us try to learn from them.

    @Lulu9101112 If it was my Dad I would disown him. He is a menace to society with his juvenile behaviour.
     
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  12. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I meant that I get confused by the too
    My mum and grandad have never speeded never gotten a speeding ticket
    And I'm not as I don't drive well not yet.
    Also you shouldn't all be guilty because
    Isn't speeding just as dangerous as other illegal things
     
  13. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but my bus pass has nearly expired so if I did he probably wouldn't give money and say it's a waste of time. Anyway 2 more days left with my dad in U.K. I'm just more worried for my half brother (who's only 3) and if my dad does this back in Netherlands. I don't think talking and pestering won't really work as he doesn't like me talking about it. It's ashame he doesn't live in UK as then I would report it to the police but he doesn't so I can't and also because it's rental car.
     
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    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I can't disown him I rarely see him as I'm in UK he ussually lives in Netherlands.

    Ps i know its a while but in December I am seeing my dad In Netherlands. So is using your mobile illegal etc in Netherlands? If so when I go round there since my dad will have his actual car there. so when I go round should I talk to the local police there?
     
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    Tipetoo Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I think it is illegal just about every where in the world, using a mobile phone to either text or talk while driving.

    Your father needs a wake up call before he has a accident, if it was my father / brother and they were persistent about doing it I would report them. They might not do anything unless they catch him red handed, but they will surely be watching out for him if you give them the cars registration number.
     
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    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    No of course not.
    Driving without road tax is an offence but it isn't dangerous.
    Driving without a seat belt is an offence but isn't threatening others as much as drimk driving and or phoning and texting.
    Texting has to be up there with drink driving as far as loss of concentration/control whilst driving.
     
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    azure Type 1 · Expert

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    Yes, using a mobile phone while driving is illegal in the Netherlands.

    But personally I wouldn't wait until December to report him. I'd also insist he watched those videos.
     
  18. Lulu9101112

    Lulu9101112 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    True but as I said because my dad is here in England only till sunday he's using a rental car.. So next time he comes it will most likely be a different number plate.
     
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    slip Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I think what your father needs to understand is although he thinks he's beyond the law, a skilled and excellent driver and invincible, other road users/pedestrians ARE NOT!
     
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  20. JTL

    JTL Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well Lulu so far you've found every excuse in the book to not actually do anything whatsoever about this dangerous lunatic.
    Will you feel the blood of children is on your hands too should the worse happen or will you find all the excuses under the sun to convince yourself it's got nothing to do with you?
     
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