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Quetiapine and Ziprazidone

Discussion in 'Non-Diabetic Medication' started by Zastro, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. Zastro

    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I've been on Quietapine for quite a long time (used for my high anxiety and bipolar) and 2 of my GPS agree that it probably contributed to my type 2 diabetes diagnosis. I have researched the drug and I have found that it does in-fact increase my blood sugar and prevent me from feeling like my hunger is satiated. Now I that I have my blood sugar under great control and I am doing great with my low carb diet I am looking to improve on the medication I take daily so see if there are other ways of improving my control of my blood sugar ( I feel like making sure I am in the best place to control my diabetes is what I should be aiming for )

    So I was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with either of these drugs while being diabetic and your recommendations I would really value your advice :D
     
    #1 Zastro, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:35 PM
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    ally1 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I am on 100mg of queapine aday.
    I and my psych are both aware of the drug causing type2 and or causing higher levels of bs readings. My psych will not increase it anymore because of increasing levels even more. My psych is very up to date with this.
    My psych and me are both pulling my hair out because it's my gp surgery that are not doing their bit by doing 3 month blood tests to keep an eye on me, but they are not doing what my psych has requested in frequent blood tests.
     
    #2 ally1, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:31 PM
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    Loobielooz_ Type 2 · Active Member

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    I can't quite belive these posts. I have previously been on this medication, put weight on (3 stone) and diagnosed this year with type 2, even though I had been off the med for 1 year, my gp agreed this was reason for going from Pre diabetic to T2. A few weeks ago I realised I was becoming Ill again and was prescribed quatiapine again, it is the only thing that makes me feel 'normal' but due to hflc working for my bg, I put off taking it until I had a smallish meltdown in town (highly embarrassed) yesterday. I am feeling disappointed with myself for resorting to the anxiety meds and can only keep telling myself to stay hflc, keep a close eye on bg and hope that it and my weight doesn't rise!! I was confused as to what to prioritise but good mental health will equal taking better alround care. Thank you for raising this issue.
     
    #3 Loobielooz_, Jul 9, 2017 at 12:01 PM
  4. Zastro

    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I actually have the form here from the diabetic specialist and in it where it says what caused my diagnosis of type 2 diabetes it reads *induced by anti-psychotics*. I have been spending a lot of of time resarching anti-pyschotic medication, its medication trials and known problems and from what I can tell, quietapine has one of the highest risks of giving someone type 2 diabetes of all the family of those meds. The only one's I have found that have no risk of increasing blood sugar and giving someone diabeties is Aripiprazole and Ziprasidone.

    Neither of those increase weight gain and in-fact have been proven to be weight neutral and even can help to lose weight and they also have no effect on blood sugars. They also basically do the same job as quietapine in regards to anxiety. I have put in a request to be switched to one of these medications with support from my GP.
     
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    ally1 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I do thing it's sods law with being bipolar and t2.
    If I come of my bipolar meds, I can have near to normal bs levels, then my bipolar becomes so bad that have to be medicated again.
    My psych would rather I take my meds, then they affect my t2.
    At one point when I was off all bipolar meds, I got so bad that I was complentating suicide, even going as far as going through with it. Was then sectioned.
     
    #5 ally1, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:29 PM
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    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I also have bipolar (type 2) which was why I was put on the meds in the first place. I think the reason the specialist put me on quetiapine was that it was the only med's shes had long experience with. If she tried to keep me on it again, I'm going for a second opinion
     
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    #6 Zastro, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:32 PM
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    ally1 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you about Q being well known for causing t2.
    The only trouble I have, is that the Q is the only med so far that has kept me sane lol
    My psych has a keen interest in t2 which us in my favour.
    The only problem I have, my psych has written to my gp on numerous occasions requesting I have 3 months bs tests done but my gp refuses and gp will stick to the annual blood test
     
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    #7 ally1, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:34 PM
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    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well I cannot comment of course on what keeps you sane but there are a options that wouldn't effect your blood sugar from my research when it comes to anti-psychotics. As for your GP if they refuse make it clear that you are demanding the 3 months BS done and if not you could always speak to another GP.
     
    #8 Zastro, Jul 9, 2017 at 5:37 PM
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    Loobielooz_ Type 2 · Active Member

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    I have decided to email my gp surgery as my doc only works 2 days a week and I wait 6 weeks to see her, I am going to request one of the above meds, for my anxiety, If they are suitable of course.
     
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    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Let us know how you get on
     
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    #10 Zastro, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:32 AM
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    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    So I went to see the specialist and she is refusing to switch me to a different anti-psychotic which thanks to supplies of Quietapine in the area I will now be forced into a cold turkey situation. She has decided to put me onto a beta blocker called Propanolol, yet another medication known to cause diabetes. I am literately sick of this women, she seems to only be willing to prescribe medication she has had experience with when it comes to other patients. I have now got 3 GP's all agreeing that I should be switched to Ziprazidone because of its weight neutral nature and non-effect on my blood sugar. I rarely ever get upset at specialists but she really seems like she does not have my best interest when it comes to her decisions
     
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    #11 Zastro, Jul 12, 2017 at 5:38 PM
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    Loobielooz_ Type 2 · Active Member

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  13. Zastro

    Zastro Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Seen my GP, he has over-ridden my specialist and has moved me onto Aripiprazole as in his opinion she is putting my mental health at risk
     
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    #13 Zastro, Jul 13, 2017 at 11:49 AM
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    Loobielooz_ Type 2 · Active Member

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    I really hope it works and am so pleased you have been listened to. I tried to reply yesterday but I think I added it onto your original thread!!! I am going to give quatiapine a few more weeks as my bg hasn't been to high, but if weight gain and high bg is a problem will go back. Good luck
     
    #14 Loobielooz_, Jul 13, 2017 at 12:18 PM
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