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Elibar

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Hi eveybody, newly diagnosed Type 2, glad I found this group, so many conflicting ideas online, reading thru' the posts my head is a little less mashed than it was a week ago when handed a folder and told to read it !!! Maybe I'll be told more at this weeks appointment. How did you find your first appt went - maybe its just me and Im thick
 

Ann1982

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You are not thick. It's definitely confusing and a bit frightening at first, but you have come to the right place. Lots of info here and friendly people too. Ask loads of questions someone will have advice or specific help. New people will get info from daisy1 if I could figure out how to tag her I would! Sending you a hug.
 

Elibar

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
You are not thick. It's definitely confusing and a bit frightening at first, but you have come to the right place. Lots of info here and friendly people too. Ask loads of questions someone will have advice or specific help. New people will get info from daisy1 if I could figure out how to tag her I would! Sending you a hug.
Thankyou so much Ann, and you're right, Ive found out so much more already - and didnt start today in tears - in case I got it wrong , thankyou for your hug
 
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Daibell

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Hi and welcome. Most of us had very little guidance when we were first diagnosed. You should learn more here than almost anywhere else so do ask any questions. I'll tag @daisy1 to give you the standard newbie information. As you will see it's a lot about keeping the carbs down in the diet which helps both blood sugar and weight. You need to get hold of a meter and buy your own test strips; the SD Codefree on the web is low cost. At your appointment you may be told you don't need to test but you do. Don't be obsessive about it but get to know your condition. Ignore any silly NHS diet advice and if you do see a dietician be very wary as many haven't a clue I'm afraid. You may be offered Metformin tablets. These are OK and very safe.
 
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Hiitsme

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Hi and welcome @Elibar
I'll tag @daisy1

(@Ann1982 to tag someone type the "@" and then start typing the name - no spaces)

Elibar take time to read Daisy's post when it arrives. Don't panic and try to take things slowly.
Do you know your blood test results? If not ask for a printout at your appointment then you will have the information to work on and it will help us give you more appropriate advice.

I worked on 3 areas, diet, weight loss and exercise. It's the carbs in our food that raise blood sugars so cutting down or cutting out not only sugar but bread, potato, rice, pasta etc will help. If you are only just into diabetic range you may not have to do much. Do ask questions and we will try and help.
 

Ann1982

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Thanks everyone. I now know how to tag someone. Think it's me being a bit thick today!
 

Art Of Flowers

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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
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Diet only
You will probably be prescribed Metformin. If so, it is best just to take one 500 pill a day with meals to start with. Some people get side effects from it, so best to phase it in and let the body get used to it.

Doctors don't seem to be clued up on Low Carb High Fat diet which many people here find very effective in reducing blood sugars and losing weight. So you may find that they suggest you eat carbohydrates with every meal. This will just keep your blood sugars high. You need to get a blood glucose meter to see which foods spike your blood. Usually we measure before meals and two hours afterwards.
 

Brunneria

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Hi and welcome!

Don't worry. Keep reading, keep exploring the forum, and you will pick up all sorts of interesting and useful information that you didn't know to ask about. :)

It takes a while for us to get our heads around the new diagnosis, so just take things steadily. And when you have been given info by your doc and nurse, come and discuss it here, if you have any queries at all!
 

JRTwalker

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Ditto with all the very useful advice and support people are/will provide from this Forum.
When I was first diagnosed and I decided to embark on low carbs, I found it really important and enlightening to learn the carb content in regular foods, especially those I had always considered "healthy" options. A cheap pocket counter book helped me out but information is easily found online too - watch those five-as-day fruits&veg!! :)
 

Liam1955

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Hello @Elibar and Welcome to the Forum :). Just take one day at a time and try not to overload your head with too much information at any one time.
Just don't be afraid to ask questions no matter how silly you may think they are.:)
 
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Pinkorchid

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Hi and Welcome yes you will find conflicting advice on the internet about diabetes. Many here do go for the low carb higher fat diet.. LCHF.. but there is no one diet to suit all we are all very different people.. You may very well get good advice from your medical team not all of them are bad. You may be told you do not need to test your blood but that will be up to you if you want to do it not everyone does and those of us that do buy our own meter and strips as the NHS will rarely give T2's strips on prescription. Cutting out or lowering the portion of starchy foods like potatoes bread rice pasta and sugar does help to lower BG levels a lot. We do have to say that the advice here is not the official NHS advice on diet so don't be surprised if your team do not approve of it. Many here do find the LCHF diet helps them to keep their BG levels under control and I am sure with trial and error you will find the way that suits you best
 
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AM1874

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Hi @Elibar
I fully agree with what other folk have said above about LCHF and diet in general .. to home in on the information to make your own judgements, it might be worth reading up on the Low Carb Program in the information that you will soon receive from daisy1. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
Low Carb 10-week Programme

In the previous post @Pinkorchid has mentioned testing and if you are considering this at this stage, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
 

daisy1

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@Elibar

Hello and welcome to the Forum :) As mentioned above, here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 147,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why :)
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

Snufflemoo

Newbie
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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Hi eveybody, newly diagnosed Type 2, glad I found this group, so many conflicting ideas online, reading thru' the posts my head is a little less mashed than it was a week ago when handed a folder and told to read it !!! Maybe I'll be told more at this weeks appointment. How did you find your first appt went - maybe its just me and Im thick
Hi. I was diagnosed about 5-6 weeks ago. Literally told to go home and do research. I cut out sugar in my hot drinks, "full fat" fizzy drinks, hardly had any bread, sweet potato instead of normal potatoes, started eating breakfast, having more salads and veg. But I don't know if what I'm doing is right. Trying to get a follow up appointment with the surgery diabetic nurse is proving difficult due to work commitments.
I need to lose a LOT of weight as well so trying not to have full fat cream, too much cheese etc.
My DESMOND group date isn't until august so I'm pretty much winging it.
My problem is craving the sweet stuff. I miss having biscuits with my cup of tea and chocolate. I know I can have a little but I have no self control so if I buy any then it's all gone in one go!!
I guess it's going to take time to adjust. I just wish I had more structured advice to begin with.
Good luck.
 
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AM1874

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Hi. I was diagnosed about 5-6 weeks ago. Literally told to go home and do research. I cut out sugar in my hot drinks, "full fat" fizzy drinks, hardly had any bread, sweet potato instead of normal potatoes, started eating breakfast, having more salads and veg. But I don't know if what I'm doing is right. Trying to get a follow up appointment with the surgery diabetic nurse is proving difficult due to work commitments.
I need to lose a LOT of weight as well so trying not to have full fat cream, too much cheese etc.
My DESMOND group date isn't until august so I'm pretty much winging it.
My problem is craving the sweet stuff. I miss having biscuits with my cup of tea and chocolate. I know I can have a little but I have no self control so if I buy any then it's all gone in one go!!
I guess it's going to take time to adjust. I just wish I had more structured advice to begin with.
Good luck.
Hi @Snufflemoo .. and welcome
What you are experiencing is perfectly normal and it's what most people go through at the time of diagnosis. I was in the same position as you and many others when I was diagnosed T2 in early Feb .. shocked and scared with no information and no idea what was happening to me. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. It's still early for me but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly

Managing and controlling your diabetes through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day, seems to be working .. I have lost a stone and a half since my diagnosis and my BG levels are down from 12.5 to around 6. There is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum .. so ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need ..

You will soon be contacted by @daisy1 and I would suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will send you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following websites ...
Low Carbs in 60 Seconds
Low Carb 10-week Programme

If you are considering self-testing, try the website at: https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/ for the SD Codefree meter or: http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/ who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free. The costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. I'm testing 3-4 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I will be able to manage them
Hope this helps
 
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