Winnie53
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- Type of diabetes
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Update
I have fallen into a pattern of 3 day fasting (Monday - Wednesday). This is my 3rd week. Don't know how that happened! It just felt right. By the end of day 3 I'm feeling pretty rough - so need to take on some solids. Weight up and down (as you would expect) but sugar levels are dropping nicely. Also hand pain is easing - a little.
I think it's worth continuing this pattern for now and see where it takes me.
Wish I could do more than 3 days though - I'm inpatient for results!
@Living-by-the-beach I also have lost a similar amount of weight and my BMI is also probably similar, although as a measurement I don't believe it's particularly relevant.
I consider T2D to be incurable, but you can certainly alleviate the symptoms and make significant improvement to your health by reducing your need for Insulin, and the best ways to do this is by following a Low Carb lifestyle and Fasting occasionally.
I agree the Pharmaceutical and Health Industries appear to want to promote Insulin usage and drugs that do the same, both of which appear nonsensical to me as a way to treat a disease that is usually caused by resistance to Insulin.
I think that I have made improvements to my Insulin sensitivity due to intermittent fasting and continuing Low Carb eating, and I believe that is the way forward.
Good luck with your attempts. We are all different and will get different responses, but it must be the logical path to follow.[/QUOTE
@Living-by-the-beach I also have lost a similar amount of weight and my BMI is also probably similar, although as a measurement I don't believe it's particularly relevant.
I consider T2D to be incurable, but you can certainly alleviate the symptoms and make significant improvement to your health by reducing your need for Insulin, and the best ways to do this is by following a Low Carb lifestyle and Fasting occasionally.
I agree the Pharmaceutical and Health Industries appear to want to promote Insulin usage and drugs that do the same, both of which appear nonsensical to me as a way to treat a disease that is usually caused by resistance to Insulin.
I think that I have made improvements to my Insulin sensitivity due to intermittent fasting and continuing Low Carb eating, and I believe that is the way forward.
Good luck with your attempts. We are all different and will get different responses, but it must be the logical path to follow.
Ok, Ive only skimmed the notes on this thread... Firstly AMAZING ac1 progress, I am on insulin and insulin resistant (no metformin)... Im on low carb... its not making much difference - still insulin issues. So how often is intermittent fasting? How much protein do you eat? How much butter do you eat? how much carb is low carb and do you calorie count? Please take my questions as a compliment - I really want to follow your way and obtain such fabulous Ac1 results. Do you exercise, I ask this as I take glucose tablets when exercising -
Out of interest, has anybody been watching the 'Retreat' BBC2 at 7pm? I noticed that everybody began the month long retreat with a 7 day fast. I wonder what the detox drink consisted of? Do we all need to do colonic irrigation to get the full effects
Hi @Bebo321Out of interest, has anybody been watching the 'Retreat' BBC2 at 7pm? I noticed that everybody began the month long retreat with a 7 day fast. I wonder what the detox drink consisted of? Do we all need to do colonic irrigation to get the full effects
Lol! I'm with you on that one @Pipp. I noticed that it was part of the initial detox 'formula' though and it seemed that it was found to be beneficial (even for some who were equally speculative). I guess it's a case of each to their own.Hi @Bebo321
I haven't seen the programme, but just wanted to say that I irrigate my colon by drinking plenty of water. Also that the direction of flow of liquid has been from the inside to outside, and will never be the opposite direction. Our bodies were not designed for that.
Thanks for sharing that - I was curious if others had found it a useful experience (or not). I try to keep an open mind rather than pooh pooh thingsI doubt it.. I have experienced it once.. not especially nice especially the forceful diarrhoea that comes just after. An ex bought me a session at the one Lady Di used to use - friend of Gillian McKeith.. hopefully that says enough. Just take some metformin for similar effect!
Ok, Ive only skimmed the notes on this thread... Firstly AMAZING ac1 progress, I am on insulin and insulin resistant (no metformin)... Im on low carb... its not making much difference - still insulin issues. So how often is intermittent fasting? How much protein do you eat? How much butter do you eat? how much carb is low carb and do you calorie count? Please take my questions as a compliment - I really want to follow your way and obtain such fabulous Ac1 results. Do you exercise, I ask this as I take glucose tablets when exercising -
Hi BeboOut of interest, has anybody been watching the 'Retreat' BBC2 at 7pm? I noticed that everybody began the month long retreat with a 7 day fast. I wonder what the detox drink consisted of? Do we all need to do colonic irrigation to get the full effects
Hi Bebo
Yep - watched 'Retreat'. Also saw that 'Diabetes' program on BBC1 last night. I learned a bit that I didn't already know - such as how awful and gruesome amputations are - and how black gangrene looks on tele.
The Retreat did revisit one interesting theory - the 7 day fast T2 reversal. The idea that the liver stores a good supply of fat - so it takes a couple of days to go into ketosis - which is when the pancreas starts to free up of fat.
On the 3 day fasts, success usually comes on day 3 for me - which is of course the hardest day! It's when I usually feel quite ill - and need to resolve it with some food. Therefore it is a short lived low.
So this week - my 3rd week of short fasts (I've done 3 day fasts for the last two weeks) I am going for 7 days. I think saying it here in this blog commits me to it. I know I have to find something to get over the day 3 hump. Mental strength is fine to a point - visions of amputations and gangrene - well, they are just frightening - knowledge that the 7 day target works for a lot of people - all helps.
I started on Monday - so it is only day 2. I figured the last 2 days should be Saturday and Sunday - in case I have no energy. I can sleep! The tricky day will be Friday. I have to teach. I think I'll have the energy for it - but at that stage in the fast the stomach becomes a little - lets call it - unpredictable! So - fingers (and perhaps legs) crossed!
I'll update you as the week goes on. After day 1 - weight down 1.6kg - sugar down by 1.6.
Hi BeboWow! Good luck and all power to you.
The body does have quite a bit of stored glucose energy in the form of glycogen. I am guessing that this gradually lowers until ketosis really kicks in and the liver is in full fat burning mode. Any exercise you do will be a double whammy for fat burning - especially anything that combines a good amount of endurance with short bursts of intensive exercise.
I personally didn't like the documentary last night. I thought it was very negative and skewed - it didn't look at those successfully managing diabetes through diet and exercise or those who have pretty much 'reversed' their condition and now feel better than ever. It beggars belief that they suggested that bariatric surgery is somehow a magic bullet.
I am guessing that anyone with T2D watching that will have been pretty horrified at the prospect of what they are apparently facing - except they aren't. Anyone who proactively manages their diabetes can live healthily to a ripe old age and avoid any complications.
I'm not a big fan of using fear to drive change and prefer a positive approach that encourages people to make informed choices.
Fingers crossed that you get through your whole fast - if you're about to wobble, come onto the forum and we can give you some encouragement.
Day 3 - the 'Hump'!
After 2 days the weight is down (considerably) by 2.7 kg. Must be mostly water. I feel I have gone into ketosis (if having a white tongue and breath like a camels armpit are any indication), But blood levels are not falling much - hovering just above normal.