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Support thread for those of us who dont lose weight

Discussion in 'Weight Loss and Dieting' started by serenity648, Nov 28, 2016.

  1. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    Well that was my intention then out of the blue I've started losing weight. I've taken tramadol for severe pain and reduced my stomach grumbling 2000mg metformin for 1000mg. I think metformin has just kicked in. I checked the scales this morning and I'm still losing, water retention seems not so bad too. For once meds are actually making a physical difference.
    Just need to rid myself of breathing restriction in walking and I'll be able to walk more.
     
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  2. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    It didn't stop me conceiving twice. My specialist kept a tight close eye on thyroid levels whilst pregnant as it can stunt mental development in the foetus.
     
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  3. Pipp

    Pipp I reversed my Type 2 · Moderator
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    @Madelinelowery

    Sorry, can't offer advice. I know very little about insulin pumps.
    How much weight are you trying to lose?
    Chalup gave some good advice.
    Best of luck, but do talk to doctor if you are concerned about thyroid.
     
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  4. Pipp

    Pipp I reversed my Type 2 · Moderator
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    @ickihun
    Good to have some positive news.
    Maybe things are going to improve. Hope so.
     
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  5. serenity648

    serenity648 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well, here we are, at the end of march. And i still havent lost more than my initial 16 lbs months ago. Despite upping my exercise, and reducing my carbs more.

    On the good side - my bs levels havent been better!!!

    But I need to have a whinge as I dont want to wear the same size Summer clothes as last year : (((((
     
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  6. Pipp

    Pipp I reversed my Type 2 · Moderator
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    I used to be happy with good blood glucose levels, but I know what you mean, @serenity648. It can be so demoralising when you don't see the results for the effort you put in. I try not to worry too much about the size on the label, just make sure clothes fit right, and feel and look right.
    Do you feel better for the good blood glucose levels? I know I tend to, and have more energy. So frustrating though when scales seem to be in contempt of your efforts.
     
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  7. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    Only once I reduced cheese and nut amounts did I start losing. Any excess in your diet?
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh! So many people judge us fat T2s. I really wish some of them could walk a mile in my shoes.
     
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  9. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    I wish they invented a hypo and hyper simulating sweet which didn't harm them but let them see how it feels to be us! Then make them carry a body weight around and tell them to stop eating or exercise more!
     
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  10. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    No loss again this week. I wish I really understood how to lose weight! :(
     
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  11. serenity648

    serenity648 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    no nuts at all and very little dairy.
     
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  12. serenity648

    serenity648 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I am going to stick my neck out here and ask a possibly very stupid question:

    Is insulin resistance the same as type 2 diabetes?

    i just cant get my head round what insulin resistance is, and what to do about it. Its like my brain freezes up when I try to understand it : (
     
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  13. Lorraine1973

    Lorraine1973 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I've not a clue what it is either. Would like to be enlightened x
     
  14. Brunneria

    Brunneria Reactive hypoglycemia · Moderator
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    You know the first time you have alcohol? You get the effects really quickly?
    But if you keep having a drink, every day, you soon build up a tolerance to it.

    It is the same with insulin.

    Normal people eat carbs, release insulin, the blood glucose is controlled, and insulin levels drop. Til the next time they need insulin. Basically carbs, blood glucose and insulin have a perfectly balanced dance inside a normal healthy body.

    But if we have a predisposition to insulin resistance, then something different happens.

    To start with, as our bodies are exposed to insulin, regularly, and in largeish amounts, we develop a resistance to it. Like with the alcohol. People who drink regularly dont get pished on a single glass, do they? Then, in order to control the blood glucose, we need to produce more insulin to do the same job. But the more insulin used, the quicker our resistance builds, in an escalating spiral. And the harder it is to get the insulin to work. And the more insulin needed to do the job.

    This all happens before our blood glucose rises much - and before we become pre-diabetic.

    Eventually, the resistance builds to the point where the body can no longer maintain 'normal' blood glucose.
    This is pre-diabetes.
    Then it rises higher and we move into T2 diabetes.

    Insulin is the hormone that pushes blood glucose out of the blood and into the fat cells, storing it as fat.

    So why does it happen? Because our bodies are flooded with insulin. And why does that happen? Because we are eating enough of the kind of foods that require insulin (carbs), to have enough insulin floating around to build up a resistance to it.

    So why do some people get insulin resistance when others don't? Even eating the same amount of carbs? Or eating less carbs than those other people?

    That would be because of genetics, environmental factors, various medical treatments, ageing organs, injury, medication like statins and so on... And exposure to carbs - because they trigger insulin release.

    (Insulin resistance can be lowered, by exercise, low carb, fasting and some medications, and there is also another side to the story, because sometimes our capacity to produce insulin fails through over work, or a fatty liver, but we don't have to be obese with subcutaneous fat for that to happen)

    If you want references for all of this info, then you can find it at Jason Fung's Intensive Dietary Management Blog. His discussions and in depth explanation of insulin resistance are excellent.
     
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  15. serenity648

    serenity648 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you!!! I have been struggling with Jason Fung and feeling like i understand each word individually, but cant make sense of the sentences.

    Have you got a ladybird guide to what medications help with insulin resistance? I know I dont have a fatty liver.
     
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  16. Brunneria

    Brunneria Reactive hypoglycemia · Moderator
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    Fraid not - although i am pretty sure that Metformin has the reputation of reducing insulin resistance. It is the only reason i want to have it prescribed for me. But they won't do it. They say my hba1c is too low for T2 drug prescriptions.

    Have a look at this though:
    https://www.drugs.com/condition/insulin-resistance.html
     
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    Chrissy8 Type 2 · Member

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    I call my fat 'perma-fat'. I'd survive the apocalypse
     
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    No2D Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    You're all a bouquet of spoons and I greatly appreciate you and what you've written. In the process of reading all of your posts it was like sitting across from someone explaining how it feels, except that I couldn't ask questions or interrupt. Thank You. You're all very special.
     
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    lemming · Newbie

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    I'm currently on a downward spiral, with no way out at the moment. I was diagnosed t2 about 4 years ago. I also suffer with depression. I've always been on the larger side of life, and I've tried almost all the different diets out there.

    When the depression hits, I eat.

    When I eat, all the weight loss on the previous diet goes out the window.

    The weight goes back on and I feel more depressed.

    So I comfort eat... again...!

    And so it goes on.

    That big dark cloud is looming large over me again, made worse by the fact that I couldn't even manage a 5k charity walk at the weekend.
    I know, one day soon, the roundabout will slow down enough for me to jump off again. I just need to find a way to stop myself hopping back on when the next cloud starts showing its face.
     
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  20. ickihun

    ickihun Type 2 · Expert

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    I still don't understand why I'm losing weight when I'm just low fat and low carb when many say that doesn't usually work.
    I'm wondering if some weight loss is to do with mood.
    Taking tramadol every 4hrs has lightened my mood. In fact when I missed some the other day I became very down. Does depression stop weight loss?
     
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