Vegetarians: What have you eaten today?

Ledzeptt

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B: Peanut butter on toast

L: Hummus & salad sandwich

D: Tofu & veg stir fry (not really authentic Chinese unless a little ginger counts) with cauli-rice

Good news: when I returned from my hols, I had a letter waiting with a hospital appointment next week to dilate my duodenum :)
 
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B: Peanut butter on toast

L: Hummus & salad sandwich

D: Tofu & veg stir fry (not really authentic Chinese unless a little ginger counts) with cauli-rice

Good news: when I returned from my hols, I had a letter waiting with a hospital appointment next week to dilate my duodenum :)
Mmmm, could just go some peanut butter on toast.... but one slice wouldn't be satisfying enough....
 
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Hi @Sable_Jan

I'm using LivLife low carb bread so I can have as many slices as I want! (two's enough for me)
 

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breakfast was mango smoothie - half amango, vegan vanilla protein powder, soy milk, coconut water, pinch of turmeric, ground linseeds.
lunch was homemade apple/red-cabbage/spring-onion/carrot 'slaw' with my homemade half-fat soy/oil 'mayonaisse' with chinese leaves and sliced marinaded tofu. snack was 2 mejoul dates and a small handful of mixed nuts. (plus my BP tablet, my metformin and an antibiotic for an ear infection! yum...) Personal Trainer session later, so I have another vegan protein powder 'shake' to hand.
 

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B: Peanut butter on toast

L: Hummus & salad sandwich

D: Tofu & veg stir fry (not really authentic Chinese unless a little ginger counts) with cauli-rice

Good news: when I returned from my hols, I had a letter waiting with a hospital appointment next week to dilate my duodenum :)
yesterday, I did my own 'raw' version of the wagammama warm tofu chilli salad. sliced and marinaded the tofu in soy-sauce, fresh ginger, hoysin paste, sesame oil and soy-millk to dilute. grated/sliced/spiralised salad veg with sugar snaps & baby sweetcorns. actually did look a bit like this - centre picture https://www.wagamama.com/our-menu/salads https://www.wagamama.com/our-menu/salads
 
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Hi @Sable_Jan

I'm using LivLife low carb bread so I can have as many slices as I want! (two's enough for me)
I've tried Lidl's low GI cob but never been able to test after....very yummy....

I've not seen that one but don't go supermarket often.... rarely go down bread aisle either but just enjoy the smell of fresh bread when I do....
 
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Hi @DavyPaul

Your Asian-inspired menu is more adventurous than mine :) In a coincidence, I've just made a smoothie using mango, coconut water, linseeds (and a few other odds and sods), but I'm not vegan so I added Greek yoghurt - sorry!

@Sable_Jan

And in another coincidence, I've finally made a trip to Lidl and bought some of their seeded rolls. I had one for breakfast (tasty) with a fried egg. I'll try another in a few days as I'm using my Libre to compare the impact of different breads and posting the results on another thread: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/thr...nd-flour-act-as-a-low-carb-food.119122/page-2
 

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I made a creamy courgette lasagne tonight (BBC recipe): pleased with the result.

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My last supper; op tomorrow, so fasting followed by a week of liquid/sloppy food :-(
 
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I made a creamy courgette lasagne tonight (BBC recipe): pleased with the result.

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My last supper; op tomorrow, so fasting followed by a week of liquid/sloppy food :-(
Hope all goes well with the op. With luck you were first down and back up in the wards recuperating now...
 
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Thanks @Sable_Jan, @Odin004

It was all very efficient and on time, but a failure. The surgeon said there was too much inflammation and it would be both pointless and risky to perform the dilation :-(

I've been advised to eat smaller portions (ok) and a "low residue" diet, which means low fibre such as white bread, white rice, etc - not great for a diabetic vegetarian! I need to discuss with my pet dietitian (daughter). I also need to see my GP to get more medication that'll help digestion.

At least I'm home and don't need to eat baby food for a week!
 
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How frustrating @Ledzeptt, sorry to hear that - is the op something they might be able to do at a later stage?

I quite understand the need to gain weight - I lost 10kg due to a bad hypo last year, which I haven't yet put back on. My issue is that I want to do it on a low carb diet . So you've been told to eat low fibre - but what about the protein, carbohydrate and fat content of your food - have you been given any advice on this? I think you mentioned previously you had hypos after bolusing - so are you low carb also?
 

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Thanks @Odin004

I suspect the op is a non-starter, but the surgeon is requesting another CT scan for more info. (I've had that many, the hospital could produce a 3D map like Alexander Armstrong's Italy's Invisible Cities programme if you've seen that!)

Ultimately, I've been told I will probably lose my stomach and duodenum as they've been wrecked by pancreatitis.

This low residue diet is just to reduce fibre and hence irritation on my stomach and intestines. As you say, it doesn't address anything else, hence I need to talk to a dietitian (luckily I have one on hand, though she specialises in neonatal and children).

I aim for 100g carbs a day to help my BG, but some days I'll eat 150g). This also tends to minimise my hypos (less insulin on board when I get a blockage) and my Libre also gives me warning, often enough time to avoid the potential hypo. I was dropping down to 2.2 on a full stomach at one point.

Previously I've been advised to boost the fat content of my diet specifically to gain weight (and given contradictory advice to minimise fat to ease the pancreatitis!). I'm probably not the best person to ask, being a T3c with malabsorption and digestion problems. (I've been admitted to hospital for malnutrition in the past.)
 
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No problem @Ledzeptt - sounds like an immensely frustrating situation (but I the love Invisible Cities reference!). Diabetes is tricky enough without this added burden - but with the right diet, and a regular eating pattern, you'll be best placed to deal with this. It sounds like, for you, half the battle is not actually knowing what to eat, and what's going to make things worse - but get that nailed with the dietician, and stick to it - at least there'll be some certainty then!

The low carb is a really good idea to minimise insulin on board - drastically minimises risk of hypos, even in someone without digestion issues. Just a thought - is there any way you could eat first, and see what effect it's having on your sugars (i.e. whether digesting properly) - and then take insulin a bit later? Maybe not all the time, but on the odd occasion here and there? Also, have you tried adding turmeric to your diet? - it's a powerful anti-inflammatory. You can buy turmeric teas (the brand I buy is Pukka) - maybe two or three a day could help - it's seems to really work for me.
 
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Thanks @Sable_Jan, @Odin004

It was all very efficient and on time, but a failure. The surgeon said there was too much inflammation and it would be both pointless and risky to perform the dilation :-(

I've been advised to eat smaller portions (ok) and a "low residue" diet, which means low fibre such as white bread, white rice, etc - not great for a diabetic vegetarian! I need to discuss with my pet dietitian (daughter). I also need to see my GP to get more medication that'll help digestion.

At least I'm home and don't need to eat baby food for a week!
Sorry to hear the op couldn't go ahead......
 
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Hi @Odin004

I saw my dietitian-daughter yesterday: she doesn't see how a low residue diet is practical for me. We went through my food diary (MyFitnessPal) and just about everything I eat for every meal is high fibre (other than eggs and tofu). It'd be difficult to survive more than a few days on such a diet: (it's often recommended for 3 days pre-surgery and long term for conditions such as Crohn's). I'll wait until I have the follow up with the surgeon as I didn't speak to him: it was was a nurse who discussed the post "op" report with me. I will make more effort to split large meals into two though.

Your suggestion to delay my bolus is valid, but I only have a problem about once or twice a week, so I think this would cause too many spikes for the rest of the time.

Thanks for the Turmeric tea advice: I've just bought some Pukka; I'm guessing it's an acquired taste :-(

Hi @Avocado_Sevenfold

I tried the Golden milk for a month: quite enjoyed it, but it didn't help, or hinder. I was always paranoid about staining everything from worktops, to carpets, to my teeth!

Thanks @Sable_Jan
 
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Regardless of the recent fuss, I'm eating well at the moment...

Yesterday:
B: Fried egg on toast

L: Tofu sausage sandwich

D: Beans & courgettes in a cheese sauce with a tiny amount of pasta

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Today:

B: Poached egg on toast

L: Carrot & coriander soup

D: (Intend to make) Quorn & veg "pie" with a couple of roast potatoes & veg. I'm making the pie with pastry for my family and I'm going to try a courgette lattice for mine... or I may just layer the courgettes and cover them with grated cheese i.e. hide the mess :)
 
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Hi @Odin004

I saw my dietitian-daughter yesterday: she doesn't see how a low residue diet is practical for me. We went through my food diary (MyFitnessPal) and just about everything I eat for every meal is high fibre (other than eggs and tofu). It'd be difficult to survive more than a few days on such a diet: (it's often recommended for 3 days pre-surgery and long term for conditions such as Crohn's). I'll wait until I have the follow up with the surgeon as I didn't speak to him: it was was a nurse who discussed the post "op" report with me. I will make more effort to split large meals into two though.

Your suggestion to delay my bolus is valid, but I only have a problem about once or twice a week, so I think this would cause too many spikes for the rest of the time.

Thanks for the Turmeric tea advice: I've just bought some Pukka; I'm guessing it's an acquired taste :-(

Hi @Avocado_Sevenfold

I tried the Golden milk for a month: quite enjoyed it, but it didn't help, or hinder. I was always paranoid about staining everything from worktops, to carpets, to my teeth!

Thanks @Sable_Jan
Are they proposing you follow the low residue diet temporarily or is it a keeper?

There was an omni lady on the forum yesterday talking about such a diet. I suggested to her to check if veg juices (not smoothies) were an option as the fibre is removed leaving the nutrients. This weekend I have had "mean green juice" for both breakfasts and lunches and I am buzzing with nutrients. It sounds insane to drink fibreless apples and vegetables when I have diabetes, but yesterday I checked my bg hourly and was between 4.4 - 6.4 all day. Maybe check with your daughter to see what she thinks. It might help to enrich your diet if you have to remove most veg and fruit for being high fibre.

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For dinner yesterday and today:
Red Thai curry with peppers, green beans, mushrooms and tofu.
 

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One pie, with lattice:

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It tasted better than it looks!

P.s. I ended up smothering it in cheese anyway because I needed the calories.

Original credit for the idea belongs to @Enclave I think.
 
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Ledzeptt

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Hi @Avocado Sevenfold

I think the diet is supposed to be long term.

I'm surprised about the results of your juice tests. I replaced my old juicer with a nutribullet in order to keep the fibre: may have been a mistake!
 
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