Want to reverse prediabeties

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Hello
I'm brand new to this site. I had cancer ten years ago (non Hodgkin lymphoma) and as part of the chemotherapy I was given pill form steroids for two out of every three weeks on chemo. For a total of six cycles. A side effect of these steroids was that I became temporarily diabetic and had to have insulin shots. Thankfully I got over the cancer but the hospital continues to monitor me for diabeties as my fasting blood sugar level was borderline. I have been told I've an impaired glucose tolerance which I took fairly casually until I later learned that it's another term for prediabetic! I'm due back in the hospital in two years time and want to reverse the prediabetic status. I'm overweight and eat too much junk food. Any suggestions welcome.
 

AM1874

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Hi @DublinPreDiabetic .. and welcome
You have certainly made a good move coming here. Since joining this forum, though, the folks here have given me so much info, advice and support that I am now much more confident about the journey ahead. So ask your questions and be assured that you will receive the answers that you need. It can all seem uphill to start with but, in my experience, it gets easier .. very quickly.

You have already made a positive start in dealing with your T2 diagnosis .. but the key point to take on board is that managing and controlling your diabetes (or pre-diabetes) through exercise, diet and testing your Blood Glucose seems to be the best way forward for many people. For me, committing to an LCHF (Low Carb High Fat) lifestyle and testing 3-5 times a day seems to be working and you'll find that there is a wealth of info, relevant advice and positive support about LCHF on the forum ..

I have tagged tagged @daisy1 for you and I suggest that you read up on the Low Carb Program in the information that she will soon be sending you. You might also find the discussion on the Low Carb Diet forum helpful .. and the following Diet Doctor websites which will give you all the info that you need on what and what not to eat ...
Low Carb Intro and Information and Low Carbs in 60 Seconds

It is a top priority that you get yourself a test meter and, for this, the following websites might help:
https://homehealth-uk.com/product-category/blood-glucose/
for the SD Codefree meter, which costs £12.98 or:
http://spirit-healthcare.co.uk/product/tee2-blood-glucose-meter/
who distribute the TEE 2 meter, which is free.
I have both which I alternate for comparative purposes and I have never found any significant difference between them.

Unless you are prescribed test strips by your doctor (unlikely), the costs of testing comes down to the ongoing charges for test strips and lancets. Make sure that you tick the appropriate box on the on-line order form and you won't pay VAT on your meter or strips.
For the SD Codefree, the strips are £7.69 for a pack of 50 and there are discount codes available for bulk purchases:
5 packs x 50 use code: 264086 .. cost is £38.45
10 packs x 50 use code: 975833 .. cost is £76.90
For the TEE 2, the strips are £7.75 for a pack of 50 .. but there are no discount codes currently available

I'm testing 3-5 times a day which works out at around £10 to £12 per month for either of the two packages above but, more importantly, I now know what my BG levels are .. and I can now manage them

Hope this helps
 

Bluetit1802

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Hi and welcome,

Good news your cancer has gone. I hope it remains that way for you. :)

@AM1874 has given you some very good advice.

The first thing you must do is stop all the junk food. If you don't, your pre-diabetes won't reverse and you will probably cross the threshold to full blown diabetes. The key to blood sugar control is diet - and that means reducing most carbs, especially bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and anything containing flour. Most junk food will have these ingredients. A blood glucose meter will help you with your future food choices.
 
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Freema

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Hello
I'm brand new to this site. I had cancer ten years ago (non Hodgkin lymphoma) and as part of the chemotherapy I was given pill form steroids for two out of every three weeks on chemo. For a total of six cycles. A side effect of these steroids was that I became temporarily diabetic and had to have insulin shots. Thankfully I got over the cancer but the hospital continues to monitor me for diabeties as my fasting blood sugar level was borderline. I have been told I've an impaired glucose tolerance which I took fairly casually until I later learned that it's another term for prediabetic! I'm due back in the hospital in two years time and want to reverse the prediabetic status. I'm overweight and eat too much junk food. Any suggestions welcome.


as only being pre-diabetic you really have a chance of reversing..

I would suggest you to go low carbs right away , and also lower calories so you every day eat a little more than you burn.. it has helped me tremendously to use an APP on my phone called "lifesum" in which I write all I eat it can also scan the barcode on the food and get the information that way too besides its arkive ...

I did the first 6 month on 1000 calories daily.. but it can be done also doing like 1500 calories daily as long as one eat less than one burn ..

here is a link where you can calculate your daily needed amount of makro-nutrients ( proteins, fats and carbs ) and total calories ..

well I forgot to mention that getting fit and building muscle also can help insuline resistance in some people. It has helped me a lot
 
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Hello @DublinPreDiabetic, and welcome to the forum. Great info above, and plenty of advice shared between members. You might want to take a look at the Success Stories section as well - reading about other people's experiences gave me a real lift when I first found this site, and the encouragement I needed, to know that hard work and determination can pay off in the end.
 
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@DublinPreDiabetic

Hello and welcome to the Forum. Here is the Basic Information we give to new Members and I hope it will be useful to you. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
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I'm brand new to this site. I had cancer ten years ago (non Hodgkin lymphoma) and as part of the chemotherapy I was given pill form steroids for two out of every three weeks on chemo. For a total of six cycles. A side effect of these steroids was that I became temporarily diabetic and had to have insulin shots. Thankfully I got over the cancer but the hospital continues to monitor me for diabeties as my fasting blood sugar level was borderline. I have been told I've an impaired glucose tolerance which I took fairly casually until I later learned that it's another term for prediabetic! I'm due back in the hospital in two years time and want to reverse the prediabetic status. I'm overweight and eat too much junk food. Any suggestions welcome.
Hello from Mallorca. Sorry to hear regards your cancer situation. Regards reversing, lessening, control of Pre Diabates, I am Pre diabetes and below may be of some beneficial use and help to you, my blood levels are normal, my A1C reduced by 23% in 4 months NO MEDICATION simply by changing lifestyle, exercising and low carb eating plan along with intermittant fasting, the fasting helps reduce all or any fat within the liver very important to get rid of diabetic or pre diabetic.

EXERCISE
Try to walk min 30 mins a day, or if you have tread at home 10 mins 5.6klm after each meal, breakfast, lunch dinner i.e. 30 mins, walking on a tread is better than road walking,but both are excellent. If you can do walking up to 1 hour a day or 5 days a week would be added BONUS FOR YOU.

LOW CARB EATING
Essential. Take a look at diet doctors website, its amazing helpful, sensible and so easy to follow. Wonderful menus ideas and information that proves beneficial for especially diabetics along with others.

INTERMITTANT FASTING
Not everyone feels confident to intermittant fast. I am doing it the easy way, started off 18 hr fast. Sounds a long time, its not really. Last meal 8pm in the evening, miss breakfast, only having Tea or Coffee no milk or sugar. Next meal Lunch. One is sleeping for approx 8 hours during this fast, this is what makes it easy and I personally do not feel hunger pangs at all. Have a good low Carb meal night before, the other easy part, eat for Lunch what you would for Breakfast i.e. 2 scrambled eggs in butter and cream, and some seed crackers for example or asparagus.

24 hour fasting. Also easy. Last meal 8pm say Saturday night. Sunday miss breakfast and lunch. Next meal 8pm Sunday Evening. Having Tea or water during the day as you wish. Slightly longer fast, very beneficial

Bascially if you can do 3 mornings no breakfast and one day no breakfast and lunch....this has truly assisted the consistency of my pre diabetes situiation to a high degree.

Three things basically

  • Exercise
  • Low Carbs eating plan
  • Intermittant fasting as and when you feel able
Dont put in Carbs and whatever you put in, burn it off is the motto of the day.

Hope this is of help, and good luck.

Mallorca
 
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pollensa

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Hello from Mallorca. Sorry to hear regards your cancer situation. Regards reversing, lessening, control of Pre Diabates, I am Pre diabetes and below may be of some beneficial use and help to you, my blood levels are normal, my A1C reduced by 23% in 4 months NO MEDICATION simply by changing lifestyle, exercising and low carb eating plan along with intermittant fasting, the fasting helps reduce all or any fat within the liver very important to get rid of diabetic or pre diabetic.

EXERCISE
Try to walk min 30 mins a day, or if you have tread at home 10 mins 5.6klm after each meal, breakfast, lunch dinner i.e. 30 mins, walking on a tread is better than road walking,but both are excellent. If you can do walking up to 1 hour a day or 5 days a week would be added BONUS FOR YOU.

LOW CARB EATING
Essential. Take a look at diet doctors website, its amazing helpful, sensible and so easy to follow. Wonderful menus ideas and information that proves beneficial for especially diabetics along with others.

INTERMITTANT FASTING
Not everyone feels confident to intermittant fast. I am doing it the easy way, started off 18 hr fast. Sounds a long time, its not really. Last meal 8pm in the evening, miss breakfast, only having Tea or Coffee no milk or sugar. Next meal Lunch. One is sleeping for approx 8 hours during this fast, this is what makes it easy and I personally do not feel hunger pangs at all. Have a good low Carb meal night before, the other easy part, eat for Lunch what you would for Breakfast i.e. 2 scrambled eggs in butter and cream, and some seed crackers for example or asparagus.

24 hour fasting. Also easy. Last meal 8pm say Saturday night. Sunday miss breakfast and lunch. Next meal 8pm Sunday Evening. Having Tea or water during the day as you wish. Slightly longer fast, very beneficial

Bascially if you can do 3 mornings no breakfast and one day no breakfast and lunch....this has truly assisted the consistency of my pre diabetes situiation to a high degree.

Three things basically

  • Exercise
  • Low Carbs eating plan
  • Intermittant fasting as and when you feel able
Dont put in Carbs and whatever you put in, burn it off is the motto of the day.

Hope this is of help, and good luck.

Mallorca
PS, I forgot to mention, if possible dont eat bread, potatoes, pasta or rice I have not eaten them for 11 months. This has reduced the sugar levels greatly, there are wonderful substitutes for these, Bread make your own seed crackers, Zucchini slices instead of pasta for lasagna, grated cauliflower instead of Rice, Pumpkin instead of potatoes i.e. boil them AL DENTE, place in fridge, this breaks down the carb content which is lesser than in potatoe, then dry fry next day to a golden colour as substitute of potatoe is example ideas. I am from Spain where fresh wonderful breads with cheese, jams and wine are the order of day, I missed the first month, after eating my new seed crackers.
 

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Hi, in 1999, I was medicated with intravenous corticosteroids constantly for several weeks in an attempt to treat UC. Since diagnosis of T2 diabetic (HbA1c 60) in 2015, and obtaining access to past test results, it appears that I was probably prediabetic for at least 12 years before diagnosis. I am not overweight and have always been fit and active, so I believe there is a high probability that the corticosteroids were the root cause of my T2.
I commenced a strict LCHF diet shortly after diagnosis and brought my HbA1c back down to normal range (39) in approximately four months.
Good luck!
 
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