tighthead3
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Will YOU ask your Dr for the 600 cal diet
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I don't believe that going on a 600 cal a day diet is anyway healthy! I've had friends on lighterlife which is a similar low calorie thing and they've been ill with it and then put the weight back on. Nobody can maintain such a low calorie intake for long.
My late mum was insulin dependent type 2 and when she was very ill at the end she stopped eating so we had to try and get bits of food into her where we could and try and get her to drink the special drink the hospital gave us which meant she was on a really, really low calorie diet. In the end she didn't need to have insulin at all, a reversal of her diabetes? Don't think so, once you are a diabetic, you always have it, you just know how to control it or as in my mum's case you are to ill to eat so the body doesn't need to process the sugars.
Eating only 600 calories a day must be so limiting and so boring and I really can't believe that this is being put forward as a way to control diabetes.
My late mum was insulin dependent type 2 and when she was very ill at the end she stopped eating so we had to try and get bits of food into her where we could and try and get her to drink the special drink the hospital gave us which meant she was on a really, really low calorie diet. In the end she didn't need to have insulin at all, a reversal of her diabetes? Don't think so, once you are a diabetic, you always have it, you just know how to control it or as in my mum's case you are to ill to eat so the body doesn't need to process the sugars.
Eating only 600 calories a day must be so limiting and so boring and I really can't believe that this is being put forward as a way to control diabetes.
How far did you get from last summer in your journey, Patch? Did you reach your goal weight. Did the diabetes go into remission? Can you eat normally?Patch said:
I realise this is an older thread, but I am a real advocate for the ND and with only 4 more days left until I finish the 8 week diet, thought anyone who may have read my diary on the weight loss forum, or have heard of or are considering the ND would find this thread helpful.
My advice? Try it, what do you have to lose?
My advice? Try it, what do you have to lose?
Yes - read on:
I have asked my doctor, twice. About 2 years ago at my old surgery. They were open to exploring before answering. There is a second "diet" available called Lipotrim. They will supply an informational binder and at my old surgery the diabetic nurse accepted this and promised to study it and report to the doctor. At that time I was working a demanding job with long hours and I gave up before that doctor had to make a decision. The problem for a GP is you have to give up any tablets you may be taking because, the theory goes, no sugars in - no tablets needed. And many GPs do not want to be the one that OK'd a diet if you had problems and most do not have the time or resources to support individual T2/Obese patients. She would not even refer me to a nutritionist.
Lipotrim has been around for a long time now and was once only available through your GP; it works for obese people as well as T2 diabetics. It is now available and supported through your chemist who requires the OK from your GP if you have T2. I see it as an excellent product.
The second time was in July this year. My new GP was NOT interested and her diabetic nurse was non-supportive wanting me to lose weight the NHS way. It was very frustrating to hear the NHS announcing how obesity and diabetes were dragging down resources and my GP not wanting to support these types of programs. I included the information from Newcastle with the information from Lipotrim in my efforts to get the OK. I even pleaded during 2 or 3 visits to no avail.
I got them to agree to full bloods tests every 3 months and then went ahead and started the diet on my own. After 8 weeks of a standard local/lofat diet at the 600 cals target my results were great. By then I was educating myself on the lchf ketosis diets and I moved onto that at 1200 cals and moved up to 1800 cals.
I started at 21 Stone at the end of July and made it to 18 Stone by early November. I had more energy, clearer thought processes and brighter outlook. ALL of my bloods improved vastly. I am aiming for 15 stone sometime next year. I was 13 stone as a teenager, but that seems too low for my body as it is now, age 63 with good muscle tone. BTW, most of this involves eating good food in smaller portions - no 'diet' and no 'diet tricks'. I used to love chocolates, but this Christmas one candy seemed so sweet it was revolting and I did not try any others. I did have some carb meals (it's the holidays) and like an addict my body screamed for more. But using my BG meter I could see my BGs going all over the place - mostly too high. Thank God the holidays are over.
I have asked my doctor, twice. About 2 years ago at my old surgery. They were open to exploring before answering. There is a second "diet" available called Lipotrim. They will supply an informational binder and at my old surgery the diabetic nurse accepted this and promised to study it and report to the doctor. At that time I was working a demanding job with long hours and I gave up before that doctor had to make a decision. The problem for a GP is you have to give up any tablets you may be taking because, the theory goes, no sugars in - no tablets needed. And many GPs do not want to be the one that OK'd a diet if you had problems and most do not have the time or resources to support individual T2/Obese patients. She would not even refer me to a nutritionist.
Lipotrim has been around for a long time now and was once only available through your GP; it works for obese people as well as T2 diabetics. It is now available and supported through your chemist who requires the OK from your GP if you have T2. I see it as an excellent product.
The second time was in July this year. My new GP was NOT interested and her diabetic nurse was non-supportive wanting me to lose weight the NHS way. It was very frustrating to hear the NHS announcing how obesity and diabetes were dragging down resources and my GP not wanting to support these types of programs. I included the information from Newcastle with the information from Lipotrim in my efforts to get the OK. I even pleaded during 2 or 3 visits to no avail.
I got them to agree to full bloods tests every 3 months and then went ahead and started the diet on my own. After 8 weeks of a standard local/lofat diet at the 600 cals target my results were great. By then I was educating myself on the lchf ketosis diets and I moved onto that at 1200 cals and moved up to 1800 cals.
I started at 21 Stone at the end of July and made it to 18 Stone by early November. I had more energy, clearer thought processes and brighter outlook. ALL of my bloods improved vastly. I am aiming for 15 stone sometime next year. I was 13 stone as a teenager, but that seems too low for my body as it is now, age 63 with good muscle tone. BTW, most of this involves eating good food in smaller portions - no 'diet' and no 'diet tricks'. I used to love chocolates, but this Christmas one candy seemed so sweet it was revolting and I did not try any others. I did have some carb meals (it's the holidays) and like an addict my body screamed for more. But using my BG meter I could see my BGs going all over the place - mostly too high. Thank God the holidays are over.
Try slim fast
It is VILE. The Cafe Latte one looks like glue - I won't be buying it again.
Back to Optislim for me.[/quote]
try slimfast
It is VILE. The Cafe Latte one looks like glue - I won't be buying it again.
Back to Optislim for me.[/quote]
try slimfast
I asked my diabetic specialist nurse to recommend me for it, her reply was 'its still in the testing stage and won't be prescribed until its come to the end of the trial, if at all, it'll depend on the results.' Which I thought was a load of twaddle.....
