woman with maybe Borderline diabeties

helleo66666

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Hi there,just aa little bit worried as mentioned on here, i had a routine blood test done and it came back normal except one, which they said want to repeat my bloods, borderlene diabieties one. I havn't been feeling that great, a few time just become over whelmed with fatigue, weakness, and have the most awful taste in my mouth. i am 48 years of age, but not partically over weight, maybe a stone or two. well just to get to the nitty gritty i have been using a accu checker to keep an eye on my blood sugar.the first one after normal eating , 2-3 hours after was 7.1 mmol, the morning after no food was 6.6 mmol., the the evening, 2 hours after food was 7. 2,mmol, ,, last night 2 hours after food it was 9.3mmol. waited an hour this morning after waking up, its 3.4. i am a bit worried and hope when the doctors blood test is done.
 

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Hi, and welcome to the forums .. @daisy1 should be along soon with a welcome pack. Best not to worry too much as that will also affect your sugar readings .. There's lots of info in these forums and best to test first thing in the morning .. Then just before eating and then two hours after .. Keep a log of what your eating with the readings .. I put mine in a small note book and then when you get a bigger picture of your food and sugar levels it will be clearer to see what's happening.
But don't stress .. Stress = raised sugar !
 

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Hello and welcome to the forum :)

Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful to be able to remain borderline. Not everything in here will apply to you of course.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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runner2009

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please take a look. Dr . Jason fung saying how to reverse bg

Oh my I don't even know where to begin on this video.

News Flash bariatric surgery does not cure diabetes. What it does do is for a while in a high percentage of individuals provide them with excellent BG control. The same occurs with rapid weight and sustain weight loss so that one is on the lower end of the normal BMI scale

Diabetes type 2 is often an issue of insulin resistance, but in actuality it is often much more than just that. It is by far not a one dimensional disease.

By the doctors own admission he says multiple times that if you follow his clinics protocols you will be cured. Following a protocol dietary or whatever is not a cure. Everyone in this forum follows some protocol and no one is cured. They can at best manage their diabetes with some able to obtain normal BSs

He does have some good points that many forum members follow but that is not a cure.

As for existing meds not treating the issues and are not affective nor prevent future complications, that is simply not true just like his statement that bariatric surgery cures 90% of the people.

Thought some research points to diminishing returns on how low one needs to keep ones BG levels to eliminate complications, there is both antidotal and research that indicates the lower ones A1C is to normal with minimal post meal spikes one can dramatically reduce complications and reverse existing ones over a number of years.

Again with no disrespect to you, I personally find this type of claim offensive even though I practice some of his dietary guidelines
 

NoCrbs4Me

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Oh my I don't even know where to begin on this video.

News Flash bariatric surgery does not cure diabetes. What it does do is for a while in a high percentage of individuals provide them with excellent BG control. The same occurs with rapid weight and sustain weight loss so that one is on the lower end of the normal BMI scale

Diabetes type 2 is often an issue of insulin resistance, but in actuality it is often much more than just that. It is by far not a one dimensional disease.

By the doctors own admission he says multiple times that if you follow his clinics protocols you will be cured. Following a protocol dietary or whatever is not a cure. Everyone in this forum follows some protocol and no one is cured. They can at best manage their diabetes with some able to obtain normal BSs

He does have some good points that many forum members follow but that is not a cure.

As for existing meds not treating the issues and are not affective nor prevent future complications, that is simply not true just like his statement that bariatric surgery cures 90% of the people.

Thought some research points to diminishing returns on how low one needs to keep ones BG levels to eliminate complications, there is both antidotal and research that indicates the lower ones A1C is to normal with minimal post meal spikes one can dramatically reduce complications and reverse existing ones over a number of years.

Again with no disrespect to you, I personally find this type of claim offensive even though I practice some of his dietary guidelines
To be fair he doesn't say "cure" much, but "reversal", although "curable" is in the blurb below the video. I just don't know how he can make much money off this. A low carb high fat diet is not exactly a cash cow, since that's what I do and it costs me nothing beyond the cost of the food. On second thought, maybe he owns a cheese factory. Anyway, I don't disagree with much that he said, although the diabetes reversal rate from bariatric surgery is lower than he states.
 
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runner2009

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To be fair he doesn't say "cure" much, but "reversal", although "curable" is in the blurb below the video. I just don't know how he can make much money off this. A low carb high fat diet is not exactly a cash cow, since that's what I do and it costs me nothing beyond the cost of the food. On second thought, maybe he owns a cheese factory. Anyway, I don't disagree with much that he said, although the diabetes reversal rate from bariatric surgery is lower than he states.
Of course what he says is nuanced and one can agree with pieces of what he says but his basic premise is not correct and to hypothesize that if you want to get 'well' then dump your meds because they are not treating the underlining problem is just not correct and that if you use your meds you will keep getting worse is just not correct.

As I wrote before type 2 diabetes is not a one dimensional disease of insulin resistance anymore that just because you and I have the same symptom of lower back pain in no way means we have the same problem.

Sadly right now it is a chronic disease that must be managed on a daily basis. A disease that is relentless in that if you want to eliminate as much negative impact you must manage it on a meal by meal basis along with constant managing ones life style and meds.

To imply it is anything else IMO is insulting to us in the forum or in the diabetic community.
 

runner2009

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PS this video has been posted in almost every forum thread isn't it then spam?
 

NoCrbs4Me

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PS this video has been posted in almost every forum thread isn't it then spam?
Yes, but I think just a misguided attempt at something.

I find it refreshing that Dr. Fung is an actual medical doctor with a medical degree that is putting his patients on a low crab high fat diet.
 
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runner2009

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Your point is solid, no disagreement there (-: